Captain Seafort wrote:I'm pretty sure that making the Kelvin part of a completely separate universe prior to Nero's arrival wasn't what Abrams had in mind either. Nonetheless, that's what the film depicts.
Lt. Staplic wrote: For all the flaws in executions, certain advancements and differences in size and power were only there because of OOC reasons.
GrahamKennedy wrote:The Kelvin was a big ship. But there's absolutely nothing I know of in TOS to say that there are no ships larger than the Connies. As for power, how can we possibly compare? Kelvin had more and different weapons but we haven't a clue how they stack up in terms of power, range, accuracy, etc.
Mark wrote:I agree with Chief O'Brian.
"I hate temporal mechanics."
Captain Seafort wrote:It's not just the Kelvin, it's the neoE - she's as big or bigger than a GCS, a ship whose size Picard was "in awe of" over a century later. There's no way in hell that that change came about as a result of the Kelvin's single encounter with the Narada.
Captain Seafort wrote:It's about as canon as you're going to get - far more so than any of the various PT/phaser/shield calcs that get thrown around. On top of that, Chekov was highly impressed by the size of the Excelsior, a ship considerably smaller than the neo-E. Do you think a power in the middle of a major arms race is going to hold back from building the biggest, most powerful ship it can?
GrahamKennedy wrote:I can walk up to a car, a building, a ship, and say "Wow, that's big" and in no way does it mean it's the biggest I've ever seen, let alone the biggest ever built.
The question is whether it is established in canon or not. And it is not. It's really that simple - they never say "this is the biggest ship" and so it's not canon that it is.
Captain Seafort wrote:If you or I said that, it would be true. If a professional naval officer with several decades command experience proclaims himself to be in awe of the size of a warship, you can safely say that said warship is something exceptional.
They also never explicitly answered any of the other questions that we've discussed and answered on this forum over the past four years and which you've been doing since DITL started. It isn't necessary.
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