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The Romulan War

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My timeline is a little screwey I'll freely admit. But was the Romulan War supposed to have occured during the "missing years" of Enterprise? Or after? And if the Romulans had the kind of tech advantage we saw in Enterprise, how did Earth not get conqured? We almost would have needed some help from the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellerites, wouldn't we?
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Pretty sure it was supposed to be in the missing years since what we appear to be seeing, or rather not seeing is the founding of the Fed. Generally accepted fanon is that the War would lead to the UFP but this has not been established in Canon.
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The usually accepted date for the start of the romulan war is 4 years before the formation of the federation in 2161. Had Enteprise gone a full seven seasons they would've ended during the first year of the war, I think. Of course I'm not sure how canon those dates are.
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From what I understand had Coto of been given a 5th season he would have skipped ahead, similar to crap BSG, to show the War, at least the start of it or some such.
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Not sure how I would feel about that. It would seem like they are just rehasing the latter DS9 seasons.
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Mark wrote:And if the Romulans had the kind of tech advantage we saw in Enterprise, how did Earth not get conqured?
That advantage may not be as great as you'd think. Sure, there was the cloak, but going by TOS:Balance of Terror, we had a big edge in power generation and torpedo tech. I'd call the "chameleon" ship and the remote piloting technology one-offs - if they turned out to be practical, they would have been seen from the Romulans later.
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I think ENT screwed up any possibilty of the Romulan war in two ways.

For one Humanity was just two weak. We have way to few ships to do anything and our tech level is to low. There was not a single space power around in ENT which humanity could have taken on in a space war.

Secondly the Romulans were to strong, far to strong, stronger than they were in TOS. They could have destroyed Earth with out us even knowing what the hell happened.
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I wish they had shown the Romulan war, to tie up the loose ends, like the guys in romulan uniforms on Vulcan, and maybe an expilination for the drone ship. My thought is one-offs due to the Temporal Cold War. It would explain all the Romulan inconsistancys.
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I heard talk after ENT was cancelled that they planned to do the war in a straight to DVD 3 movie thing with Coto as Producer. Dont know what happened to the idea.
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Would have been interesting to see Coto's take on the war. As long as B&B kept their hands off it it had some hope of being fairly good.
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Even with Coto I dont know how could it could have been unless they ignored most of ENT.
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Teaos is right (ow!) - Earth was presented in far too primitive a light to later portray as victors of the Earth-Romulan War. Another, more subtle, ignorance of the franchise exhibited by B&B.
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In reality, we would have (by ENT) had to rely on others untill we could get at least half decent production capability and until we developed the Daedalus.
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I'd like to point out that we didn't see that much in terms of combat ability from the Romulans. The two modified "warbird" drone ships and the ship in the minefield, and we don't know the Romulan production capabilitys, or even have an indication of how intense the war even was.
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No, but we know they had tech capabilities that Earth didn't; and we know that Earth's individual ship capabilities and production capability sucked a** (according to ENT.)
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