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Response to Endgame tech

Postby Teaos » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:51 am

So Voyager came home with new armor and torpedoes, but from what we see these werent deployed into the fleet, despite Voyager doing its own refit, in space, with limited supplies in a very short time.

So we assume Star Fleet is holding back the tech either due to temporal bullshit, or they are keeping it quite, ready for rapid and mass deployment, in order to not spark a arms race or let it slip into enemy hands.

But lets assume that after a period of testing to make sure it all works, Starfleet deploys it to the fleet.

What do the other powers do?
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby Sonic Glitch » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:41 am

My first guess is: Preemptive first strike.
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby Teaos » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:55 am

Considering how rapidly it could be deployed, it would be out before they could stop it, in which case they are punching a brick wall.
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby Graham Kennedy » Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:05 pm

It will be no different from the US having the bomb after World War II. Yes, for a few years there will be military supremacy for the Federation. But for one thing, we know that the Federation isn't going to use the supremacy to launch the conquest of the Alpha Quadrant. They'll just sit back and go back to doing their usual missions. Meanwhile, as Spock said, military secrets are the most fleeting of all. If the things are going to be in mass production through the fleet then the designs WILL leak, and sooner rather than later.And if Voyager can create these things out of their own resources then there won't even be any great lag in putting them into production; the week after the plans leak every Romulan, Klingon and Cardassian ship will have ablative armour generators and transphasic torpedoes. Then it's back to the status quo again.
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby stitch626 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:56 am

Unless the Federation actually did something about "threats", it would be just as Graham described.
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby McAvoy » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:00 pm

Sonic Glitch wrote:My first guess is: Preemptive first strike.


No that wouldn't work. The first strike might work initially until very soon, the opposing powers will be overwhelmed by sheer numbers of fanwank-Batman-tech. It also entirely depends on how many ships the Feds have prior to the preemptive strike.

On a similar note, I wonder where did the Endgame tech come from. Was it thought up entirely by the Voyager crew or was it developed from a series of technologies Voyager encountered and figured out how to combine it into the Borg-popping tech we see in Endgame?
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby Sonic Glitch » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:52 pm

McAvoy wrote:
Sonic Glitch wrote:My first guess is: Preemptive first strike.


No that wouldn't work. The first strike might work initially until very soon, the opposing powers will be overwhelmed by sheer numbers of fanwank-Batman-tech. It also entirely depends on how many ships the Feds have prior to the preemptive strike.

On a similar note, I wonder where did the Endgame tech come from. Was it thought up entirely by the Voyager crew or was it developed from a series of technologies Voyager encountered and figured out how to combine it into the Borg-popping tech we see in Endgame?

I always assumed it was the result of another ~60 years of tech development and the components were easily replicated. Since they were From the Future, they were beyond modern Borg tech.
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby McAvoy » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:07 pm

I think it was only 17 years and it was designed to fight the Borg of that time. I am not sure though.
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby Andrew82 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:28 am

Has always intrigued me why the transphasic torpedoes where never supplied to top of the line ships like sovereign and galaxy class ships. Suppose it would have made nemesis a boring ending.
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby Graham Kennedy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:35 am

Andrew82 wrote:Has always intrigued me why the transphasic torpedoes where never supplied to top of the line ships like sovereign and galaxy class ships. Suppose it would have made nemesis a boring ending.

In one of the books, they say that Starfleet holds back on using the transphasics wherever possible because they know that if they keep using them then sooner or later the Borg will adapt to them and they'll become useless.
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby Teaos » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:54 pm

They are basically instant win weapons. Also the more they use them more chance other powers have to reverse engineer them.
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby Alexbright99 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:25 pm

In the excellent Star Trek: Destiny book series this new technology is used to try to fend off the Borg, which gives the Borg the opportunity to slowly adapt to those transphasic torpedoes each time they're used. There's a lot of debate on this strategy. On the one hand, it's the only thing to defend yourself with in such a large-scale invasion. On the other hand, once the Borg have adapted... then what?
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Re: Response to Endgame tech

Postby bladela » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:07 pm

what is the purpose of a weapon if you do not use it when you are attacked?

after all the borg have already adapted to "traditional" weapons, so you would banally go back to the usual situation of confrontation with them.
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