Atekimogus wrote:Yes of course, however the timespan it took them to develop their tech is insanly long and all they came up with seems potent, no doubt, but not necessarily as advanced as one would think given the timespan, with much of their tech being in a stage the UFP is already tinkering with (transwarp for example) or is just a more potent version of tech already in use.
Where have we previously seen such casual disabling of an opponent's computer systems? With regards the transwarp, where have we seen the Feds use it without either a) nicking it or b) nearly destroying the ship in the process?
First contact with the Borg. Disaster. Second contact...well also but they came up with new stuff incredibly fast and when Voyager ends Borgs are just a joke.
First contact - ripped through the Neutral Zone colonies on both sides so badly that no one even got off a description. Second contact, E-D only survived thanks to literal Act of Q. Third contact, Wolf 359, 'nuff said. Hugh doesn't really count, fourth contact they were getting the shit kicked out of them at every action until Crusher came up with the "shoot the sun" idea. Fifth contact, they bulldozed their way right through to Earth. Do I need to go on?
Dominion. First contact...a disaster, completely defensless. SEcond contanct....yeah, though luck, we made our shields work again, suck it dominion.
First contact complete disaster, lost a GCS, second contact complete disaster, lost Defiant. They didn't fix the shield problem until Sisko captured the bug in "The Ship", and even after that the Feds were getting steamrollered both in the early months of the war and in the lead-up to Sisko bringing the Romulans in.
Breen. Upsy daisy, they are shutting down our ships. WTF. A few weeks (months) later....."Please keep shooting your disabling beam while we don't give a damn and shoving a few quantums down your throat!"
A neat trick from an inferior species, not comparable to the overwhelming superiority in strategic mobility, stealth, transporter power and computer effects teh Voth have demonstrated.
We have seen far more potent stuff they were able to deal with.
Bollocks - the Voth have demonstrated abilities beyond any Trek power short of the Q. The Feds are outmatched.