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[Tyyr]

It'd just seems vastly more complicated than a simple water shower. If they had no artificial gravity I could understand it, but as is... just sorta silly.

[Mark]

Especially since in introduction of replicators. However, in say Enterprise and TOS carrying that much water would have been a problem. Of course, thanks to B & B, Enterprise had "sequencers" to come up with water.

[Lighthawk]

It'd just seems vastly more complicated than a simple water shower. If they had no artificial gravity I could understand it, but as is... just sorta silly.

Agreed. A standard shower works pretty damn well and is really pretty simple. A sonic shower just seems too complex for no real clear advantage.

[Lighthawk]

Especially since in introduction of replicators. However, in say Enterprise and TOS carrying that much water would have been a problem. Of course, thanks to B & B, Enterprise had "sequencers" to come up with water.

Eh, I doubt that really. We've already got pretty decent water recycling technology on the shuttle and space station now, give it a few hundred years and I really doubt space craft will need to ration water, even without things like sequencers or replicators.

[Tyyr]

Especially since in introduction of replicators. However, in say Enterprise and TOS carrying that much water would have been a problem. Of course, thanks to B & B, Enterprise had "sequencers" to come up with water.

It might have been, but they had significantly more space than a modern nuclear submarine and its possible to get a shower on those ships. Maybe not a long luxurious one but a wet one none the less.

[Mark]

Your taking to quick a look at it. Let's probe a bit. Recyling urine and whatnot is great. But on the shuttles and space station, they don't shower or bathe. They don't use water for plants in a hydroponics bay, or for cooking. No matter how great a recycler you have, every time you recycle it, your GOING to lose some (even to simple evaporation). And for a Starship with hundreds of crew embarking on a deep space mission that is scheduled for five years....your going to still need to carry ALOT of water. If a sonic shower can cut down on water consumption......it makes perfect sense.

[Mark]

Especially since in introduction of replicators. However, in say Enterprise and TOS carrying that much water would have been a problem. Of course, thanks to B & B, Enterprise had "sequencers" to come up with water.

It might have been, but they had significantly more space than a modern nuclear submarine and its possible to get a shower on those ships. Maybe not a long luxurious one but a wet one none the less.

Water which is obtained through desalinating the seawater. In space, that's not an option. You could always restock at a planet during exploration, or chase down a comet.............but who knows how that would turn out?

[Lighthawk]

Water isn't that hard to make though. Hell, hydrogen powered cars create water when they burn their fuel. And yes, every bit of recycling means you lose some water...but lose it where? A ship is an enclosed enviroment. That water isn't vanishing. I would wager it ends up in the air, so a few dehumidifiers should get it back. As for carrying enough water around, Trek ships are pretty damn big, even the small ones. I wouldn't imagine a real shower on a shuttle or runabout, but anything Mirandia sized or better could easily carry a few hundred gallon tanks.

[Mark]

Thus increasing the ships mass by a significant margin.

[Lighthawk]

Thus increasing the ships mass by a significant margin.

Not really. A Miranda is half a million a tons. Water weighs about 8 pounds a gallon. So even 5000 gallons would be a mere 20 tons, only a 0.004% increase in total mass of the ship. I'm sure the engines and warp core could handle that, and I don't think a crew of 200 would need even that much readily availible water.

[Reliant121]

I love a good shower. Or a bath so hot your skin almost falls off. I'd definitely loathe to give that up.

[Mikey]

You wouldn't have to. Water for bathing is obviously available, per INS. Not just for bathing, but for recreational bathing.

[SomosFuga]

what about holo shower, is that likely? is it practical?

[Mark]

You wouldn't have to. Water for bathing is obviously available, per INS. Not just for bathing, but for recreational bathing.

Don't forget Neelix's bath scene in Caretaker.

[Tyyr]

Can't I?