That would be so freaking awesome.kostmayer wrote:Be a bit of a shame if they made it all the way to the wormhole, only to get blasted to pieces by the minefield at the other end.
Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
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That would've been one hell of a surprise ending.
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Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
I can´t find it, can you hotlink it?Lighthawk wrote:The DITL galatic map shows it pretty well. The wormhole isn't exactly next door, but it's a good deal closer then trying to fly across the whole damn galaxy.
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Check under politics.
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Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
I'd call it Karma.Lighthawk wrote:I'd call that more ironic than a shame.
Check the "Politics" heading. Sadly, there's no canon map that we know of, though Graham's is quite a good theory.SomosFuga wrote:I can´t find it, can you hotlink it?Lighthawk wrote:The DITL galatic map shows it pretty well. The wormhole isn't exactly next door, but it's a good deal closer then trying to fly across the whole damn galaxy.
This site has some pretty good ones as well.
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Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
The maps from that site are directly from the Star Trek Star Charts book. I like those because they do a reasonably good job of linking things from the shows into a "reality." I don't like Graham's maps because he has the Borg occupying far too much space than I think they would. I tend to think of the Borg as having a territory, but not as large as Graham depicts, but that they also just sort of maraud around doing reconnaissance, threat assessments, assimilation of ships/instillations/outposts, and conducting some version of scientific experiments (like how 7 said they'd done experiments with the Omega molecule). Which would explain why they show up in oft-seeming random locations.
I wish that during DS9 they'd had the Dominion make some brief mention, even offhanded, about the Borg. Just to let us know that the Dominion were at least aware of them. I wouldn't want them to feature the Borg in DS9 as the show was strong enough on its own, but a mere mention of them from the Dominion would have been stirring.
I wish that during DS9 they'd had the Dominion make some brief mention, even offhanded, about the Borg. Just to let us know that the Dominion were at least aware of them. I wouldn't want them to feature the Borg in DS9 as the show was strong enough on its own, but a mere mention of them from the Dominion would have been stirring.
Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
got it.Teaos wrote:Check under politics.
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Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
I think Graham´s maps are good except for that same point. I don´t see the Borg controling such a large territory, even the dominion is to big in comparition with local the powers IMO.Black Jesus wrote: I don't like Graham's maps because he has the Borg occupying far too much space than I think they would. I tend to think of the Borg as having a territory, but not as large as Graham depicts, but that they also just sort of maraud around doing reconnaissance, threat assessments, assimilation of ships/instillations/outposts, and conducting some version of scientific experiments (like how 7 said they'd done experiments with the Omega molecule). Which would explain why they show up in oft-seeming random locations.
Trata las situaciones estresantes como lo haría 1 perro: si no puedes comértelo o jugar con ello, méate encima y lárgate!!!
Handle stressful situations as a dog would: if you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and get out of there!!!
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Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
Remeber that for the Borg specifically, it doesn't have to be administered or controlled territory. Once the your area gets Borgified, it would tend to stay Borgified more than the former area of a mroe typical conqueror.
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Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
Has anyone mentioned the "Janeway Factor" yet?
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You mean, "take what common sense dictates, then do the opposite?"Mark wrote:Has anyone mentioned the "Janeway Factor" yet?
I think that's understood.
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Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
Ok, just checking
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
This was one of the first questions I asked myself upon looking at the map on DITL. The wormhole was a great deal closer than going all the way through the Delta Quadrant. Would at least have been a good idea to attempt to get to the wormhole.
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Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
I always thought it would've been great to have Voyager come home through the wormhole near the end of DS9, and help in some important battle.Sanehouse wrote:This was one of the first questions I asked myself upon looking at the map on DITL. The wormhole was a great deal closer than going all the way through the Delta Quadrant. Would at least have been a good idea to attempt to get to the wormhole.
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Re: Why didn't VOY head to the Gamma Quadrant?
"Caretaker" is set around SD 48315.6. "The Search" is set around SD 48213.1. Voyager left DS9 soon after the destruction of the Odyssey and the capture of the Defiant - Starfleet's two most powerful ships - by the Jem'Hadar. Given that track record, and the current knowledge of the Dominion as a power of unknown, but very large, extent, it would have been the height of foolishness to try and get through their space to get home.Sanehouse wrote:This was one of the first questions I asked myself upon looking at the map on DITL. The wormhole was a great deal closer than going all the way through the Delta Quadrant. Would at least have been a good idea to attempt to get to the wormhole.
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