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Re: Scorpion

Postby Teaos » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:15 pm

They didnt seem to be super fast, about on par with the Borg and Voyager, slightly faster maybe.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Nickswitz » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:20 pm

Yeah, but if they were in fluid wouldn't it have been easier to just use a propeller or something similar, except that that wouldn't work in space, so I'm gonna go with it was just to help the plot that they could move in space.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Teaos » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:37 pm

A propeller could never get a ship moving fast enough to be practical. I remember seeing a episode of Scrapeheap challenge (very scientific I know) where the expert explained that you cant just make a propeller spin faster to make a ship go faster. It reaches a point where it pretty much just creates a bubble around its self drastically dropping propolsion.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Nickswitz » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:52 pm

That does make sense, so it was probably some sort of rocket propolsionto make it move quickly at all , so yeah, that would then work in space.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Sionnach Glic » Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:22 pm

If they were organic creatures from fluidic space, simply flagellating would make the most sense. Obviously they don't do that, which is, again, fucking stupid, but we're stuck with it.
Some sort of gas propulsion system is the only explaination I can think of. Perhaps they eat and vent waste gasses as a form of movement. Though we don't actualy see any gaseous emissions from them.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Mikey » Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:57 pm

Forget propulsion - how do creatures/bio-ships from "fluidic space" not suffer terrible effects of the lack of ambient pressure in empty space?
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Nickswitz » Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:05 pm

Mikey wrote:Forget propulsion - how do creatures/bio-ships from "fluidic space" not suffer terrible effects of the lack of ambient pressure in empty space?


Um... to make their story line make sense.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Mikey » Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:07 pm

Ah... typical 'Trek mechanics, then.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Nickswitz » Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:14 pm

Yup, it doesn't make any sense in the real world, but Trek can make it happen.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Deepcrush » Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:02 pm

With bio tech, most people forget that B5 ships aren't fully bio. They are a mix between metals and bio. Plus the bio is more of a support system vs any true armor.

In Trek though we get bio tech that is the end all of be all for everything.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Mark » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:46 am

To flip the question...........how did Voyager manage to move in fluidic space? And why didn't the "fluid" clog every intake on the ship?
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Sionnach Glic » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:09 am

The ship is by definition airtight. I don't have any problems with it being able to be submerged in liquid and remain okay.
As for how it moved, probably in the same method it moves in normal space.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Tsukiyumi » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:11 am

Rochey wrote:...As for how it moved, probably in the same method it moves in normal space.


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Re: Scorpion

Postby Sionnach Glic » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:20 am

Pretty much, yeah.
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Re: Scorpion

Postby Mikey » Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:48 pm

Mark wrote:To flip the question...........how did Voyager manage to move in fluidic space? And why didn't the "fluid" clog every intake on the ship?


It should have suffered hull integrity issues, due to the much greater ambient pressure, as well as a huge degradation in velocity and maneuverability (possibly weapon range and accuracy as well.)
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