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SF Debris: Take Me Out to the Holosuite
SF Debris: Take Me Out to the Holosuite
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Re: SF Debris: Take Me Out to the Holosuite
I give it a 7/10, a stupid fun episode.
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Two of my all-time favorite Worf lines are in this episode:
"Death to the opposition!"
and
"Find him and kill him!"
"Death to the opposition!"
and
"Find him and kill him!"
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
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Also, my favorite O'Brien line ever:
Bashir: "What flavor did you make it?"
O'Brien: "Scotch."
Bashir: "What flavor did you make it?"
O'Brien: "Scotch."
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
Re: SF Debris: Take Me Out to the Holosuite
Pretty much Trek's version of a slap stick comedy.
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I... really disagree with him on this one. It's not a high favorite, but overall I really do love it.
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I agree. It doesn't try to be anything other than exactly what it appears to be (which I think Chuck aludes to), and i think that makes it pretty great. It's just a fun episode; and while some people may find a "fun" episode jarring in the middle of war-time, i think it's necessary both for the audience and the characters. Heck, Sisko even admits, DS9 is not the front line anymore so the show can take some time to focus on things that are not combat (like this episode and Badda-Bing-Badda-Bang).RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I... really disagree with him on this one. It's not a high favorite, but overall I really do love it.
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I liked this one too. Perhaps part of that is that I'm one of the guys he's talking about who doesn't know a whole lot about baseball and doesn't watch baseball movies, so what he thought of as cliche was pretty fresh to me.
But it's just a fun lighthearted episode. I don't see anything wrong with that, goofing off and having fun is what people do. It makes them more human. Or more alien, as the case may be.
But it's just a fun lighthearted episode. I don't see anything wrong with that, goofing off and having fun is what people do. It makes them more human. Or more alien, as the case may be.
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A friend of mine who was in Iraq commented that he helped set up a baseball field over there. Look at all those pictures and stories of baseball games during the American Civil War, too.Sonic Glitch wrote:I agree. It doesn't try to be anything other than exactly what it appears to be (which I think Chuck aludes to), and i think that makes it pretty great. It's just a fun episode; and while some people may find a "fun" episode jarring in the middle of war-time, i think it's necessary both for the audience and the characters. Heck, Sisko even admits, DS9 is not the front line anymore so the show can take some time to focus on things that are not combat (like this episode and Badda-Bing-Badda-Bang).RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I... really disagree with him on this one. It's not a high favorite, but overall I really do love it.
lol, same here. I'm an 'honorary' member of the Red Sox Nation and at least half the stuff in baseball makes little to no sense to me.Graham Kennedy wrote:I liked this one too. Perhaps part of that is that I'm one of the guys he's talking about who doesn't know a whole lot about baseball and doesn't watch baseball movies, so what he thought of as cliche was pretty fresh to me.
But it's just a fun lighthearted episode. I don't see anything wrong with that, goofing off and having fun is what people do. It makes them more human. Or more alien, as the case may be.
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Yeah, I don't watch many baseball films but in the episode I tend to spot a lot of cliches common to those "under-dog sports team" films ... and I love them for it. I love that the episode is so unashamedly cliche about things, right up until the end when the plucky underdog team doesn't win but instead goes for the "moral victory" in place of real victoryGraham Kennedy wrote:I liked this one too. Perhaps part of that is that I'm one of the guys he's talking about who doesn't know a whole lot about baseball and doesn't watch baseball movies, so what he thought of as cliche was pretty fresh to me.
But it's just a fun lighthearted episode. I don't see anything wrong with that, goofing off and having fun is what people do. It makes them more human. Or more alien, as the case may be.
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"But it doesn't have to happen again. Not if we make up our minds to change. Take a different path. Right here, right now."
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I think part of what makes this ep fun is that the cliches felt like they were supposed to be there, and the show was unashamed of them. It was a way of the show distancing itself from the heavy, draining war eps or the erudite mystery eps.
I can't stand nothing dull
I got the high gloss luster
I'll massacre your ass as fast
as Bull offed Custer
I got the high gloss luster
I'll massacre your ass as fast
as Bull offed Custer