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The problem with anti-torp PD weapons is that photon torpedoes travel at warp speed.
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Only if launched at warp speed but indeedMikey wrote:The problem with anti-torp PD weapons is that photon torpedoes travel at warp speed.
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Even the ship goes at warp speed, so there would not be a huge difference from other situations.
In any case, we have seen few warp speed battles, it seems normal that these are at impulse speed, so it is reasonable to optimize the ship's defenses on those.
Maybe a limit can be in the torpedoes's' shields (if any) , but these can not be too strong ... otherwise they would not explode on impact.
In any case, we have seen few warp speed battles, it seems normal that these are at impulse speed, so it is reasonable to optimize the ship's defenses on those.
Maybe a limit can be in the torpedoes's' shields (if any) , but these can not be too strong ... otherwise they would not explode on impact.
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Indeed, I should have said, "...can travel at warp speed." But I can't help feeling that if we haven't seen PD weapons in this history of ever in 'Trek, there must be some reason.
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The cost of special effects comes to my mindMikey wrote:Indeed, I should have said, "...can travel at warp speed." But I can't help feeling that if we haven't seen PD weapons in this history of ever in 'Trek, there must be some reason.
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I always figured photon torpedoes were shielded. It would explain why they change into glowing orange balls.
Certainly we know that torpedoes can be shielded, from Half a Life. And it would explain why torps can do things like get fired into the crust of a planet in Pen Pals without shattering into a million pieces when they hit.
Certainly we know that torpedoes can be shielded, from Half a Life. And it would explain why torps can do things like get fired into the crust of a planet in Pen Pals without shattering into a million pieces when they hit.
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In fact it is the only explanation if one thinks of Generations.
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Aside from the real world explanation of it being easier to show glowing balls of energy instead of actual torpedoes or missiles of course.Graham Kennedy wrote:I always figured photon torpedoes were shielded. It would explain why they change into glowing orange balls.
Certainly we know that torpedoes can be shielded, from Half a Life. And it would explain why torps can do things like get fired into the crust of a planet in Pen Pals without shattering into a million pieces when they hit.
I honestly thought they were always shielded. Maybe not from being destroyed by anti torpedo or missile defenses but to prevent the torpedo from exploding upon impact. Think of it as a armor piercing feature.
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I would expect that at least in Enterprise it is not so (if they do not have shields for the ship I do not see how they can have them for the torpedoes).
The pre-season 3 spatial torpedoes were very fitting indeed for a prequel.
The pre-season 3 spatial torpedoes were very fitting indeed for a prequel.
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Spatial torpedoes were one of the things Enterprise got mostly right. I liked that they were physical missiles, that they weren't especially powerful.bladela wrote:I would expect that at least in Enterprise it is not so (if they do not have shields for the ship I do not see how they can have them for the torpedoes).
The pre-season 3 spatial torpedoes were very fitting indeed for a prequel.
Honestly I'd have preferred that they made them Merculite Rockets, which have been mentioned before as primitive weapons. Or maybe have ones with atomic warheads, as mentioned in Balance of Terror. But what they did was good enough.
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in fact they were damn weak, I doubt strongly they can be nuclear.Graham Kennedy wrote: Spatial torpedoes were one of the things Enterprise got mostly right. I liked that they were physical missiles, that they weren't especially powerful.
In this sense they would have to make photonic torpedoes nuclear, because antimatter weapons are out of place in Enterprise, but this has already been discussed.
At most they should have antimatter triggered nuke.
In fact, the NX-01 itself shouldn't have a dilithium mediated antimatter engine, but I'm going off topic ...
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Always wondered what made them 'spatial'.
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Umm... because they’re not temporal?McAvoy wrote:Always wondered what made them 'spatial'.
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Because they're used in space, clearly. Their wateral torpedoes used for submarine warfare were a huge hit.McAvoy wrote:Always wondered what made them 'spatial'.
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Yeah, that always bothered me slightly. The name literally means "space torpedo". Why not just call them that, instead?
Then again, "photon torpedo" doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.
Then again, "photon torpedo" doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.
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