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Hmmm.....I wonder just how the Enterprise would've turned out if she was a medium cruiser/destroyer or a light cruiser?

That being said, I would see the following lineage of ships:

Destroyers:
Intrepid Class, 2152 - 2158, remained in service until 2188, strength: 23, type: Warship
Miranda Class (basic), 2243 - 2269, class remains in service, strength: 120, type: Destroyer
Saladin Class, 2245 - 2260, remained in service until 2320, strength: 98, type: Destroyer
Miranda Class (refit), 2270 - 2285, class remains in service, strength: 262, type: Destroyer
Freedom Class, 2335 - 2350, class remains in service, strength: 423, type: Destroyer
Norway Class, 2360 - 2370, class remains in service, strength: 303, type: Destroyer (science/diplomacy enhanced)
Griffin Class, 2374, class remains in service, strength: 265, type: Destroyer

Light Cruisers:
Wambundu Class, 2332 - 2360, class remains in service, strength: 400, type: Light Cruiser
Wellington Class, 2340 - 2360, class remains in service, strength: 477, type: Light Cruiser
Steamrunner Class, 2342 - 2363, class remains in service, strength: 513, type: Light Cruiser
Saber Class, 2343 - 2368, class remains in service, strength: 217, type: Scout
Challenger Class, 2350 - 2355, class remains in service, strength: 254, type: Light Cruiser
Intrepid Class, 2371 - present, strength: 591, type: Light Explorer / Scout
Luna Class, 2378 - present, strength: 983, type: Light Explorer
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To be fair, some of Enterprises have almost been light cruisers.
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Not really. Depends how you term light cruiser. Remember that light cruiser in the way people use it was from WW2. They are nothing but a 6" gun armed cruiser but more of them than the smartly sized 8" armed cruiser. Not much of a difference but however the Ww1 version is something different. They are very small cruisers but widely varying in size. They are any cruiser in between an armored cruiser and a destroyer. Though technically the so called heavy cruisers were called light cruisers until the 6" armed light cruisers I mentioned earlier.

I suppose you could call the E-nil and maybe nice refit as light cruisers with the understanding that there is nothing bigger with the exception of battleships. However the NC class could easily be a heavy cruiser as she is more powerful than what Earth did prior. Then once we get to the E-B and further I would argue they the most powerful ships of the time.
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When you look at the E-C and almost the E-D, the amount of space given over to weapons puts it in the same league as ships with only 6 inch guns.

I think when classifying spaceships light, medium and heavy, you need to look more at the amount of space given over to weapons systems.
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No that doesn't work. Because you can arm a ship like a battleship but have massive space and you wouldn't classify it as a cruiser because of that space. It would be a battleship. Same goes for the other classifications. Starfleet isn'ta ccompletely military organization so most of their ships will have extra space for luxuries and exploring.

A light vs. Medium vs. Heavy cruiser type would honestly be about size.
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So with that in mind, I have something of a....rough outline thought up.
Destroyer lineage:
Intrepid Class, 2155 - 2185 possibly
Miranda Class (basic) successor, 2243 - 2269, refit in 2271
Miranda Class (refit) successor, 2271 - unknown, lost in 2283.
Freedom Class successor, 2342 - 2352
Norway Class, 2363 - 2369.4
Griffin Class successor, 2374, starship remains in service

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Intrepid Class, 2155 - 2185 possibly
Miranda Class (basic) successor, 2243 - 2269, refit in 2271
Miranda Class (refit) successor, 2271 - unknown, lost in 2363
Norway Class successor, 2363 - 2369.4
Griffin Class successor, 2374, starship remains in service

Light Cruiser lineage:
Wambundu Class, 2339 - unknown
Wellington Class successor, unknown launch date - unknown launch date
Steamrunner Class successor, 2342 - 2363, class remains in service,
Saber Class successor, 2343 - 2368, class remains in service,
Challenger Class successor, 2370 - 2376.4
Intrepid Class successor, 2377 - 2401
Luna Class successor, 2401 - present
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Or the name could bounce all over the place. There are a few names that do that.
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Teaos wrote:When you look at the E-C and almost the E-D, the amount of space given over to weapons puts it in the same league as ships with only 6 inch guns.
McAvoy wrote:No that doesn't work. Because you can arm a ship like a battleship but have massive space and you wouldn't classify it as a cruiser because of that space. It would be a battleship. Same goes for the other classifications. Starfleet isn'ta ccompletely military organization so most of their ships will have extra space for luxuries and exploring.
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Captain Seafort wrote:the best analogy for Starfleet's ships is the AMC.
What is the "AMC"?
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Tholian_Avenger wrote:What is the "AMC"?
Air Mobility Command?
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Tholian_Avenger wrote:
Captain Seafort wrote:the best analogy for Starfleet's ships is the AMC.
What is the "AMC"?
Armed merchant cruisers.

Merchant ships armed with a handful of guns to either defined it self from other AMC or Commerce Raiders. It was rare to have a raider to be as heavily armed as a cruiser but there was a fear.
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