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I have seen a link of Memory Beta that describes a Klingon ship, the IKV Bardur.

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/IKV_Bardur

The link indicates that the Bardur is a counterpart to the famous USS Enterprise, but if that is so, I wonder if she would be succeeded in the 24th century? Hmmm.... ;)

The information is also supported here:
http://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/
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They'd likely reuse the name, if I recall correctly there have been at least two IKS Bortas (D5 and Vor'cha). And, with likely thousands of warships having served the Empire over time, they will likely have reused many names in different generations.
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Tinadrin Chelnor wrote:They'd likely reuse the name, if I recall correctly there have been at least two IKS Bortas (D5 and Vor'cha). And, with likely thousands of warships having served the Empire over time, they will likely have reused many names in different generations.

So you agree with my conclusion that they'll most likely make a Vor'cha class IKS Bardur?
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Well, they have several classes to choose from aside from Vor'cha. But I'd reckon that if they had a famed ship with a certain name, that name would probably be re-utilized.
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Maybe Klingons are not sentimental about naming their ships so they do not care if they had a glorious and honorable crew and ship that brought their Empire honor. Unlikely of course but just saying.
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McAvoy wrote:Maybe Klingons are not sentimental about naming their ships so they do not care if they had a glorious and honorable crew and ship that brought their Empire honor. Unlikely of course but just saying.
I'd say if the ship had a glorious and honorable crew that brought glory to the Empire through its performance for the Empire, they would be more likely to reuse a name.
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I'd think they name them after honoured warriors.
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They probably do name then after honored warriors/Klingons.

They probably do reuse the name just if for the fact that they have limited good names to use. Just like us.
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Sonic Glitch wrote:I'd say if the ship had a glorious and honorable crew that brought glory to the Empire through its performance for the Empire, they would be more likely to reuse a name.
I'd agree, I'd think they'd be more likely to reuse a name more if a ship brought glory to the Empire and was renowned.

And also name them in honour of Klingon warriors.
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Tinadrin Chelnor wrote:
Sonic Glitch wrote:I'd say if the ship had a glorious and honorable crew that brought glory to the Empire through its performance for the Empire, they would be more likely to reuse a name.
I'd agree, I'd think they'd be more likely to reuse a name more if a ship brought glory to the Empire and was renowned.

And also name them in honour of Klingon warriors.
I would bet that the Klingons believe, or choose to believe, that Names have power so if a vessel had a glorious history, and the name is reused on another vessel (say, like Enterprise CV-6 being reused for the CVN-65 and FUTURE UNBUILT SHIP) then there would be an understanding/obligation that that vessel also perform gloriously.

I can see a Klingon Commander dressing down a soldier: "This is the B'wrang, the ship that conquered a dozen worlds for the Empire! You do not deserve to serve on such a glorious vessel. Improve, or I will find you another assignment."
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I agree. The real problem is if the Romulans have a ship like the Bardur and the Enterprise. :/
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why it's a problem for romulans to have famed and glorious ships? The ships who destroyed the Enterprise must be really famous in the Empire ^^
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