Shields - how?

[ultron2099]

Welcome to DITL, ultron. Is that a Star Control reference?

Nice work on the shield theory; that's about what I always figured.

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[Sonic Glitch]

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[ultron2099]

oh fine then. you can have 9.9/10

i'm such a softie.

you jellen like a fellen.

yeah for me!!

Are you gellin'?

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[Mikey]

I think it has been mentioned (I may be thinking of fanon) what type of particles are used - gravitons, IIRC. And I don't recall ever hearing that impulse engines generate a subspace field - that's what the subspace, aka warp, drive does. IIRC, impulse engines including a mass-diminishing device.

Other than that, though, your analysis of shield highs, lows, and failures seems spot-on.

[Grundig]

Aren't the warp engines mass-diminishing?

[Mikey]

I think that's a natural by-product of the subspace field, while the impulse engines include purposeful equipment to that effect. I may be subconsciously making this all up, but I thought that's how it worked.

[Grundig]

Could be. Hey, when they say "go to warp factor 0.3" which engines are being used?

[ultron2099]

I think it has been mentioned (I may be thinking of fanon) what type of particles are used - gravitons, IIRC. And I don't recall ever hearing that impulse engines generate a subspace field - that's what the subspace, aka warp, drive does. IIRC, impulse engines including a mass-diminishing device.

Other than that, though, your analysis of shield highs, lows, and failures seems spot-on.

yes and know. The impulse engine creates a subspace field for the purpose of negating mass. Warp drive creates a war field within subspace. mass isn't negated so much as no longer a factor, your not moving the ship, your moving the space bubble the ship is part of.

[Captain Seafort]

Another possibility is that the mass-lightening required by the impulse engines is actually produced by the nacelles - hence why they're always glowing even at sublight.

[Mikey]

Makes sense. Where was it mentioned, BTW, that impulse drive uses a subspace field?

[ultron2099]

Could be. Hey, when they say "go to warp factor 0.3" which engines are being used?

warp engines. keeping warp engines at 1/3 light may be a prelude to jacking it up to warp 8 and sparing them the strain of going from impulse to warp 8, a warm to hot vs cold to hot.

[ultron2099]

Makes sense. Where was it mentioned, BTW, that impulse drive uses a subspace field?

impulse engine description, tech section, daystrom institute

to quote:

Once the Deuterium has fused successfully, the plasma stream created is passed through the next major component - the space-time driver coil. Under the Einsteinian physics which holds true for objects at sub-warp velocities it is virtually impossible for a simple fusion rocket to deliver sufficient energy to accelerate a spacecraft to near light speed - the fuel requirements rapidly increase to the point where the large majority of the vessel would be dedicated to fuel tankage. The coil avoids this situation by generating a sub-warp cochrane field around the vessel, reducing its effective mass in order to boost the acceleration.

[Mikey]

That's all spec or from the TM. I mean, where was it mentioned in canon? I'm not refuting; I'd just like to know where that came from.

[ultron2099]

That's all spec or from the TM. I mean, where was it mentioned in canon? I'm not refuting; I'd just like to know where that came from.

Apparently Kennedy got it from the Star Trek The Next Generation Technical Manual


aka never heard of it mentioned in any of the shows.

[Teaos]

It was never mntioned in the shows to my knowledge but the shows used the manuals as reference.