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SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:14 pm
by Captain Seafort
Blip

Crap episode salvaged by Wesley Crusher.

Re: SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:50 pm
by Teaos
As fun as it is to see him do shit episodes, I actually prefer when he gets a average episode and really deconstructs it. Makes for a more interesting review. Threshold is almost so crap its good, but the review of it is avergae because everyone expects it to be ripping the shit out of it.

Re: SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:33 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Hmm, not a bad review. And yeah, the Wesley bits were the best. ;)

EDIT: Check that. The best part? Picard fighting to get Lwaxana back. :happydevil:

Re: SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:27 pm
by Tyyr
When Wesley is the saving grace of your episode you have seriously fucked up.

Though that being said this was one of the less obnoxious Wesley plots. He's still a wunderkid but in a less intolerable way than usual.

Re: SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:45 pm
by Teaos
I never minded he being a wunderkid, its the way they treated his tallents that annoyed me. He could have been a very good character if just written better.

Re: SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:37 pm
by Tyyr
Well looking at TNG's supposed entry requirements to the academy they ALL should have been wunderkids. However almost any character concept can be good if written well. Personally I think Wesley could have used more humanizing as a teenager. Not going all 90210 on it, but have there be some issues with a teenage boy being thrust into an adult world.

Re: SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:40 pm
by Captain Seafort
Tyyr wrote:have there be some issues with a teenage boy being thrust into an adult world.
The problem with that approach is that there's a risk it might imply that the Federation and all its inhabitants aren't universally perfect. Gene would never have allowed it.

Re: SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:42 pm
by Tyyr
Yeah, Mr. "A 10 year old child won't cry for his dead parents because we're evolved past that." Gene was like George Lucas. A great general idea guy, but someone better off not given direct control over the production.

Re: SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:22 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Ah, gimme TOS-era humans any day of the week. They will kill. They simply choose NOT to kill today.

Re: SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:37 am
by Vic
This is why I prefer TOS humanity myself. All of the objections about people being unrealisticly moral that comes up with TNG simply does not apply to TOS. Miners being more worried about the price that their ore will bring, Officials being more interested in their "mission" than helping those in need. Hell, Harry Mudd, need I say more on this subject? And yet, most of humanity wants to do the best that they can, this being showcased by the Star Fleet personnel that we see on the screen.

Re: SFDebris: Ménage à Troi

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:06 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Yeah. They're a lore more... human, for lack of a better word.