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SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:39 pm
by Captain Seafort
Blip

A decent, solid review, albeit unremarkable.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:45 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
I really do like the beginning, there.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:56 pm
by Captain Seafort
Pity he didn't comment on Plan A for Wesley though.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:05 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
yeah... but methinks he might've gotten a bit distracted with glee at that bit. ;)

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:07 pm
by Tyyr
It is a rather unremarkable review but then it's such a good episode what are you really going to rip on? What can you use as a springboard for comedy with it? I think he did a good job covering what made this episode so great.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:12 pm
by Mikey
Tyyr wrote:It is a rather unremarkable review but then it's such a good episode what are you really going to rip on? What can you use as a springboard for comedy with it? I think he did a good job covering what made this episode so great.
Exactly my thoughts. There's not much to rip, but at the same time it's not one of the more philosophical arty eps that can launch some erudite debate.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:39 pm
by Tyyr
It tells a very straight forward story remarkably well and it's the little details that make it work so good, like Picard referring to Riker as Commander instead of "Number one." It's those little things that help to build it up so well.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:03 pm
by McAvoy
I guess you could debate what happened to the Federation to lose a war and why and how a war could last twenty years. Or you could question how a rift can open with photon torpedoes.

He did touch alittle on the paradox about alternate Yar surviving in a universe where Yar died by the Tar Monster.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:17 pm
by Tyyr
Wars have lasted longer than 20 years. Given the scale we're talking about a very long war is a real possibility if the Klingons are intent on invading and conquering every world they take.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:04 pm
by stitch626
Tyyr wrote:Wars have lasted longer than 20 years. Given the scale we're talking about a very long war is a real possibility if the Klingons are intent on invading and conquering every world they take.
Especially considering how large both the Federation and the Klingon Empire are, along with the general terribleness of ground troops in Trek, I could see any real takeover war take centuries.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:02 pm
by Deepcrush
Considering that the UFP was on the very edge of surrender, that 20 year war was about to be quits and I doubt Starfleet was far behind. 40 billion dead isn't easy to turn aside.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:35 pm
by McAvoy
It is interesting though. 40 billion dead in a twenty year war vs. Ten years later they are talking about 900 billion dead. Two powers, 40 billion dead, vs. Four or five powers 900 billion dead.

I wonder what of Starfleet/UFP being at peace with the Klingons created a much larger population.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:53 pm
by Deepcrush
Where did you get 900 billion dead from?

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:20 pm
by McAvoy
The episode where Three Stooges and Julian Bashier do stats for winning or the case of the episode losing the war. I mean 900 projected dead not how many were actually killed in the war.

Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:58 am
by Deepcrush
Well it was 40 billion dead just between the UFP/KE. The 900 billion possible projection came with factoring in a war across two Quadrants. So the scale of it is extremely different.