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Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:11 am
by Mikey
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I feel it's disrespectful to Shaw to replace him, and again unnecessary. And it was a bad replacement to boot. What, they couldn't get Hayden to look in the right direction for five seconds?! :bangwall: :madashell:
Have you seen the rest of his acting? I'm surprised they could get him to tie his own shoes.

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:18 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
And... laughter point to Mikey. :lol:

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:27 pm
by alexmann
You can really see the difference on the clips that I have seen. I will be holding off buying TNG until all of it comes out.

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:39 pm
by kostmayer
Trekcore has a few new pages up showing how the remasters are coming along. They're doing an excellent job by the looks of things.

http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:51 pm
by alexmann
Interesting. Looks much better in HD.

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:57 pm
by Graham Kennedy
I watched the trailer for the blu ray version of Encounter at Farpoint and was left with a feeling of great joy, and gratitude. Great joy, and gratitude....

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:01 pm
by Mikey
Nicely done, indeed. While I never considered FX to be the determinant of "good" or "bad," having better FX tends to be less intrusive to the watching experience.

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:29 am
by McAvoy
Ok I am most impressed with the detail on the Farpoint creature. Other stuff is ok.

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:12 pm
by alexmann
I think it's all much better.

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:52 pm
by Atekimogus
McAvoy wrote:Ok I am most impressed with the detail on the Farpoint creature. Other stuff is ok.
Still locks like something belonging rather to sesame street imho.

Should have replaced the whole puppet with actual CGI. Normally I am all for keeping it as close to the original as possible but in case of the Farpoint creature, the thing just looks so cheesy and the Remastered edition doesn't really change that imho.

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:33 pm
by McAvoy
I agree. But this isn't like TOS Remastered. All they are doing here is fixing color, enhancing the picture and sound. Basically if they were going to do it like TOSR then yeah, I would want the alien replaced.

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:09 pm
by kostmayer
I'm not sure I want to see George Lucas-esque tampering.

On the other hand, Yesterdays Enterprise with an electrocuted Data and decapitated Wes.. - to say nothing of the aliens in Conspiracy.

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:12 pm
by Atekimogus
kostmayer wrote:I'm not sure I want to see George Lucas-esque tampering.

On the other hand, Yesterdays Enterprise with an electrocuted Data and decapitated Wes.. - to say nothing of the aliens in Conspiracy.
Me neither, for example I would never dream of replacing the Gorn with CGI, imho the costume looks still great and it works with the overall story.

The farpoint aliens however........the puppets are just so bad that you cannot easily ignore how cringeworthy they look.

The farpoint aliens, the aliens in conspiracy, the slime-tar-pit alien.......those are things which could really profit from todays CGI. The rest stands reasonably well even today imho. Maybe they could brush up a view space battles (yesterdays enterprise comes to mind, where they used a VERY bad and early CGI E-D for a view shots) but other than that...... .

(I am not a huge fan of the TOS remastered to be honest, mainly because.....call me crazy but the CGI Enterprise just doesn't look "real" to me, it looks far more like a plastic toy than the old footage....I really cannot put my finger on it as to why since the CGI models of today are probably even more detailed than the physical ones........and yet......I still prefer the physical models......)

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:30 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Atekimogus wrote:
(I am not a huge fan of the TOS remastered to be honest, mainly because.....call me crazy but the CGI Enterprise just doesn't look "real" to me, it looks far more like a plastic toy than the old footage....I really cannot put my finger on it as to why since the CGI models of today are probably even more detailed than the physical ones........and yet......I still prefer the physical models......)
The physical models have heft, weight, physical presence. You know they're there, that they exist. The CGI models don't, and therefore no matter how awesome they look... it's an intangible, methinks. And yet right there.

Re: TNG-R Next Generation Remastered

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:24 pm
by kostmayer
I've always thought CGI ages faster then physical models.