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True, hard to beat the advice of a man who's dedicated his like to tending the land.
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Deepcrush wrote:Guinan is several hundred years old and has enough experience to shut Q up. My guess is she'd be a better counselor then anyone in Starfleet.
Well her species also are natural listeners.

I think what it comes down to, is that Guinan was always generally better written than Troi was. Troi from the very beginning was a bad idea.
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Deepcrush wrote:True, hard to beat the advice of a man who's dedicated his like to tending the land.
Well, admittedly it's also based off my own fanon that Boothby is really also Uncle Martin from 'My Favorite martian'. ;)
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Deepcrush wrote:Guinan is several hundred years old and has enough experience to shut Q up. My guess is she'd be a better counselor then anyone in Starfleet.
She didn't just shut him up, she seemed to genuinely scare him. How the hell she managed to pull that off I don't know.
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Captain Seafort wrote:
Deepcrush wrote:Guinan is several hundred years old and has enough experience to shut Q up. My guess is she'd be a better counselor then anyone in Starfleet.
She didn't just shut him up, she seemed to genuinely scare him. How the hell she managed to pull that off I don't know.
Unfortunately that thread is left dangling.
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Captain Seafort wrote:She didn't just shut him up, she seemed to genuinely scare him. How the hell she managed to pull that off I don't know.
True enough.
Sonic Glitch wrote:Unfortunately that thread is left dangling.
Maybe, but it could be a blessing that we got to see some great character acting without the writers later on messing it up.
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Although she only scared him when he wasn't omniscient, I don't remember them really ever being in the same area when he was.
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In "Q Who" he stopped dead in his tracks when he saw her. As though he didn't know she was there.
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I stand corrected, I though we only saw them interact when his powers were taken away.
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Yeah, stabbing him with the fork was absolutely funny.
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Deepcrush wrote:Yeah, stabbing him anyone with the fork was absolutely is always funny.
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I stand corrected!
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My wife once actually stabbed her sister with a fork. My wife was about 6 or 7, and her sister said something about "being done." So, my wife stuck a fork in her.
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Deepcrush wrote:In "Q Who" he stopped dead in his tracks when he saw her.
Maybe (time always did seem to be different for her) she saw a flash of him ask Janeway to mate & he didn't want Jean Luc finding out :)
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Oh, wait. It wasn't just when he was depowered. In the Borg debut didn't they interact? He had his powers then IIRC.
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