Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby SomosFuga » Tue May 31, 2011 5:46 am

and B4 kind of idiot.
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby alexmann » Tue May 31, 2011 8:36 am

Why doe the tall man have a furry face?
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby Graham Kennedy » Tue May 31, 2011 10:24 am

M5 certainly would have contributed to the fear. And for that matter, during the Enterprise's mission how many times did they come across sentient computers, four or five? And in every single case, it had gone nuts and killed, enslaved or mistreated people. Vaal, Nomad, V'Ger, Yonada... over and over. Hardly surprising that they developed a bit of an aversion to the idea.

Incidentally, though we have never seen robots in use with the Federation, according to B'Elanna in "Prototype" they do use robots of various sizes and shapes. Make of that what you will. She does confirm that Data is the only sentient AI in the Federation, though.
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby alexmann » Tue May 31, 2011 10:26 am

The robots are probably only used in Mass production factories.
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby Sonic Glitch » Tue May 31, 2011 10:27 am

GrahamKennedy wrote:M5 certainly would have contributed to the fear. And for that matter, during the Enterprise's mission how many times did they come across sentient computers, four or five? And in every single case, it had gone nuts and killed, enslaved or mistreated people. Vaal, Nomad, V'Ger, Yonada... over and over. Hardly surprising that they developed a bit of an aversion to the idea.

Incidentally, though we have never seen robots in use with the Federation, according to B'Elanna in "Prototype" they do use robots of various sizes and shapes. Make of that what you will. She does confirm that Data is the only sentient AI in the Federation, though.

Well, the Exocomps were robots were they not?
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby alexmann » Tue May 31, 2011 10:31 am

May I ask, what are Exocomps?
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby Sonic Glitch » Tue May 31, 2011 10:33 am

alexmann wrote:May I ask, what are Exocomps?

You can ask ;-)
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby alexmann » Tue May 31, 2011 10:37 am

Ha Ha. What are exocomps?
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby Griffin » Tue May 31, 2011 10:42 am

The little robot things from TNG: The Quality of Life:
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby Mithrandir » Tue May 31, 2011 10:43 am

*Exocomps*

Hmm, it seems plausible that the Federation was cautious regarding AI in the aftermath of M5. And we've seen that while a ship can run quite smoothly with a skeleton crew and automated systems under normal circumstances, it is too risky to get into a fight (e.g. Star Trek III).

But I must confess that some tactical officers would have profited from a more sophisticated AI - sometimes ships and stations couldn't hit the broad side of a barn (to say it with Kirk :) ) with their weapons.
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby alexmann » Tue May 31, 2011 10:54 am

Thanks guys, never watched that episode!
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby Mikey » Tue May 31, 2011 11:09 am

There were things like the exocomps, which is why I said "paucity" rather than "complete absence." However, the exocomps were another good example. The exocomps developed sentience by accident, and things took a tumble once that happened. Regarding B'Elanna's statement... yes, perhaps there were robots in general use, much like their common usage in modern RL manufacturing. I thought it was implied that I was referring to sentient - or at least AI - robotics.
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby alexmann » Tue May 31, 2011 11:14 am

I didn't find an inference but AI robots would be useful.
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby Tyyr » Tue May 31, 2011 12:29 pm

That's the problem, in the Trek universe we've got one example of an AI not going bad and killing everyone it can and at least five of them doing just that. If AI is a crapshoot the odds on it not ending in death are pretty bad.

I really liked the episode with the Exocomps, a lot. Then again I'm a sucker for AI/What qualifies as life episodes.
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Re: Do Starfleet ships have AI ?

Postby alexmann » Tue May 31, 2011 1:29 pm

I never really liked those episodes. Too much thinking was involved
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