TNG: Identity Crisis

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TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby SolkaTruesilver » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:25 pm

Okay. Usually, I don't go and nitpick random errors and plot holes in episodes, but I think Identity Crisis to be quite a good episode, with a healthy dose of horror related to the transformation into an alien. the investigative part was well done, and the whole episode was, in my mind, a good Sci-Fi horror drama.

It's just that.. there are stuff I simply want to slap the author/producers silly for these mistakes.

1- People are worried that George might want to transform and want to leave the Enterprise. He casually proposes to be monitored at all time by the computer. Right. Why not give him a security escort? For that matter, why haven't both him and the Commander RedShirt been under constant security escort so that they don't escape?
2- The computer was supposed to monitor LaForge's position constantly. Right. Good idea. Now, wouldn't it have been logical for the computer to mention at the exact moment Geordi dispeared? The computer waited until somebody asked about him.. that's not constant monitoring!!
3- When they go check on LaForge in the holodeck. They start searching the program for Geordi. That's right. The recreation of a whole colony. What happened to "Computer, End Program"?!?!?!
4- When Invisible to Eye and Sensor Geordi gets to the transporter room, the door opens up for him. Hey, what happened to Invisible to Eye and Sensor? How the door detected him?
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby Tyyr » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:30 pm

SolkaTruesilver wrote:2- The computer was supposed to monitor LaForge's position constantly. Right. Good idea. Now, wouldn't it have been logical for the computer to mention at the exact moment Geordi dispeared? The computer waited until somebody asked about him.. that's not constant monitoring!!

That is being monitored, it's simply not timely reporting. Could be that the computer was extremely literal in this case.
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby SolkaTruesilver » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:39 pm

Tyyr wrote:
SolkaTruesilver wrote:2- The computer was supposed to monitor LaForge's position constantly. Right. Good idea. Now, wouldn't it have been logical for the computer to mention at the exact moment Geordi dispeared? The computer waited until somebody asked about him.. that's not constant monitoring!!

That is being monitored, it's simply not timely reporting. Could be that the computer was extremely literal in this case.


I think a case of "Captain, the subject being monitored has disapeared from the Ship" would have been appropriate.

I mean, I understand not having reports every 5 minutes. But if the monitored subject disapear, the computer should report it, you now, IMMEDIATELY.
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby Captain Seafort » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:56 pm

SolkaTruesilver wrote:I mean, I understand not having reports every 5 minutes. But if the monitored subject disapear, the computer should report it, you now, IMMEDIATELY.


Why, if it wasn't told to? That's the problem with computers - they do exactly what you tell them to do, and if you don't tell them to sound an alert if someone disappears, then they won't.
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby SolkaTruesilver » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:05 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:
SolkaTruesilver wrote:I mean, I understand not having reports every 5 minutes. But if the monitored subject disapear, the computer should report it, you now, IMMEDIATELY.


Why, if it wasn't told to? That's the problem with computers - they do exactly what you tell them to do, and if you don't tell them to sound an alert if someone disappears, then they won't.



All right then. Starfleet Security Procedures are utterly incompetent?
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby Captain Seafort » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:06 pm

SolkaTruesilver wrote:All right then. Starfleet Security Procedures are utterly incompetent?


And in another stunning revelation, water is wet.
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby SolkaTruesilver » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:06 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:
SolkaTruesilver wrote:All right then. Starfleet Security Procedures are utterly incompetent?


And in another stunning revelation, water is wet.


:shock:

IT IS?!
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby Vic » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:20 am

Suprise! :|

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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby Picard » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:19 pm

I don't like incompetence argument, but it is what happens when civilians try to simulate military situation without asking military for advice.
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby Deepcrush » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:22 pm

Picard wrote:I don't like incompetence argument, but it is what happens when civilians try to simulate military situation without asking military for advice.


Bingo, you hit it on the nose.

Honestly this is one of the primary reasons for the UFP's troubles. They are a military... run by civilians... :bangwall:
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby Tiberius » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:06 pm

SolkaTruesilver wrote:4- When Invisible to Eye and Sensor Geordi gets to the transporter room, the door opens up for him. Hey, what happened to Invisible to Eye and Sensor? How the door detected him?


Easy. pressure sensitive matt under the flooring.
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby Picard » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:18 pm

Deepcrush wrote:
Picard wrote:I don't like incompetence argument, but it is what happens when civilians try to simulate military situation without asking military for advice.


Bingo, you hit it on the nose.

Honestly this is one of the primary reasons for the UFP's troubles. They are a military... run by civilians... :bangwall:


I was originally talking about production staff but it works for in-universe perspective as well.
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Re: TNG: Identity Crisis

Postby Deepcrush » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:30 pm

Picard wrote:I was originally talking about production staff but it works for in-universe perspective as well.


I was agreeing about the staff and adding in about the UFP.
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