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What happens if one person just wants to specifically talk about Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra? Will the other person automatically assume he's citing metaphor and get confused? :)
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Nickswitz wrote:I don't think that it was that they we're speaking specifically in metaphor, I thought it was a UT thing, where that's what it got from what he said.
UT?

Would have been nice to see more tamarians after that ep know that they can probably comunicate at least at some grade.
I guess that if UFP had troubles comunicating with them, it's the same for everybody else so tamarians may have been a very isolated race until then.
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One way that they could have developed them (which I think would have been more plausible) was that they use regular language for basic things, and metaphorical language for abstract and intellectual matters.
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Lazar wrote:One way that they could have developed them (which I think would have been more plausible) was that they use regular language for basic things, and metaphorical language for abstract and intellectual matters.
I don't think so because if that were the case then they should be able to choose to use regular lenguage when communicating with other civilizations and they don't do that.
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SomosFuga wrote:I don't think so because if that were the case then they should be able to choose to use regular lenguage when communicating with other civilizations and they don't do that.
He's not suggesting that was the way it was. It's obvious that they didn't get non-metaphorical language at all, which of course begs the question as to where their language even came from to begin with. But that its one way they could have gone with it that might have made them more plausible and less the Ocampa of communication.
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PResumably they had a "proper" language long, long ago, but over time it got replaced with metaphors.
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Rochey wrote:PResumably they had a "proper" language long, long ago, but over time it got replaced with metaphors.
Kinda like how modern language is being replaced with text-speak. :wink:

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:laughroll:
Thats a pretty good analogy.
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We'll see if you're still laughing twenty years from now when a doctor asks you "wood U lik 2 termnate lif sprt on ur mom?" :lol:
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Tsukiyumi wrote:We'll see if you're still laughing twenty years from now when a doctor asks you "wood wud U lik lyk 2 termnate lif sprt on 4 ur mom?" :lol:
Fixed. The original had too many letters. ;-)
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:lol:





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me,myself and I wrote:
Tsukiyumi wrote:We'll see if you're still laughing twenty years from now when a doctor asks you "wood wud U lik lyk 2 termnate lif sprt on 4 ur mom?" :lol:
Fixed. The original had too many letters. ;-)

For some reason, I find that SOOO very disturbing.
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Can we "The river Temarc, in winter" this thread now please? :)



Darmok TNG episode - Quotes

"Shaka, when the walls fell." (meaning Failure)
"Temba, his arms wide." (meaning Gift, or to Give)
"Mirab, his sails unfurled" (meaning travel)
"Sokath, his eyes uncovered" (understanding, revealing truth)
"Zinda, his face black, his eyes red" (war, violence)
"The river Temarc, in winter" (Stop, cease)
"Kiyazi's children, their faces wet" (death, mourning)
"Uzani, his army with fists open" (to lure the enemy away) - "...with fists closed" (to attack)
"Picard and Dathon at El Adrel" (a new metaphor added to the language at the end of the incident)
"Gilgamesh and Enkidu at Uruk" (Picard's metaphor about ancient Babylonian legends from Earth)
"Rai and Jiri at Lungha. Rai of Luwani, Luwani under two moons. Giri, or Ubaya. Ubaya of crossroads, at Lungha. Lungha, her skies gray" (greeting)
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You translated this, HOW????
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
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My UT works better than your Marky Lad :)
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