Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
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Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
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Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Better having Jellico nuke the Cardassian fleet than the OMGteh'drama!!1!1! At the very least, pretty explosion!Capt. Jethro wrote:Drama, can't have space battles with the Cardies without drama. Draws chicks to the show.RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I don't have much to add except I agree with you all. Riker was a pompous ass here.
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Yeah, I would have like to have seen a few of the mines that Riker deployed detonate. It would be reminiscent of the old submarine movies.RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Better having Jellico nuke the Cardassian fleet than the OMGteh'drama!!1!1! At the very least, pretty explosion!Capt. Jethro wrote:Drama, can't have space battles with the Cardies without drama. Draws chicks to the show.RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I don't have much to add except I agree with you all. Riker was a pompous ass here.
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Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
BOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Jellico: Worf, I said Alpha Seventeen
Worf: My bad.
Jellico: Worf, I said Alpha Seventeen
Worf: My bad.
"You ain't gonna get off down the trail a mile or two, and go missing your wife or something, like our last cook done, are you?"
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."
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Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
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Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Worf would never make a mistake like that. LOL
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Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Who said it was a mistake? 
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My point exactly!Deepcrush wrote:Who said it was a mistake?
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Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Perhaps he did have similar repercussions. There was no talk about him being offered a command again until 2379 when he took command of the Titan, ten years after the events in Chain of Command.Considering that Worf's chances for higher command were killed because he opted to save his wife's life rather then finish the mission, Riker should have had similar repercussions or cashiered.
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Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Fair point there. Maybe his chances of becomming a captain were deliberately crushed for that incident. It wouldn't have been too much of a punishment for Riker, given that he had no interest in command for a long time, but Jellico wouldn't have known that.
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Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Riker didn't refuse any order to go on the mission, he was relieved by Captain Jellico - he probably shouldn't have gone as far as he should have with Captain Jellico, but I don't think it's anything close to what Worf did.
What should have hurt his career more in my opinion is his part in the mutiny aboard The Pegasus. He may have been young at the time, but he had plenty of time afterwards to come forward afterwards.
What should have hurt his career more in my opinion is his part in the mutiny aboard The Pegasus. He may have been young at the time, but he had plenty of time afterwards to come forward afterwards.
"You ain't gonna get off down the trail a mile or two, and go missing your wife or something, like our last cook done, are you?"
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."
Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Actually, he wasn't part of the mutiny............just the cover up.
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Fair point - upto that point I guess he was only obeying orders. It was only during the courtmartial where he went astray.
How much will "I was only obeying orders" let you get away with? Maybe a discussion for another thread, but would the bridge crew of the Phoenix have been punsihed for following Captain Maxwell so blindly?
How much will "I was only obeying orders" let you get away with? Maybe a discussion for another thread, but would the bridge crew of the Phoenix have been punsihed for following Captain Maxwell so blindly?
"You ain't gonna get off down the trail a mile or two, and go missing your wife or something, like our last cook done, are you?"
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."
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Re: Episode Discussion: Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2
Worf muttering. "Like it'd really matter? We're gonna blow them all up anyway..."kostmayer wrote:BOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Jellico: Worf, I said Alpha Seventeen
Worf: My bad.
Jellico. "What was that?"
Worf. "Nothing nothing!