Welcome to the idiocy that is....the Pakleds

[Aaron]

Someone here said they wanted to see SFDebris cover a good episode. Here you go.

I haven't seen this ep in years but he brings good points about the moral of the story, I never thought about it that way before.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Yeah, that's a great review there for a great episode.

[Mark]

Oh, of course. If it was handed to them they might be able to make it work. I was countering the assertion that pure determination would have allowed them to create such tech on their own, without outside influence.

Perhaps they were just slow in speech (I haven't seen the ep yet, so don't know the specifics).

No. They really were retarded.

Sorry, I should have allowed for that. That statement was intended to allow for the successful purchase/barter/discovery (ie FINDING)/receiving the gift of/or theft of tech.

To quote Captain Seafort from another discussion, "determination < opposable thumbs."

We're not talking about trying to win a spot on the varsity team, we're talking about interstellar travel. Certain tools are just plain required.

In other words, a paraplegic can't climb stairs. There are other solutions, such as ramps, available; and it doesn't mak
e the paraplegic a bad person. But the fact remains.

As I remember, the Pakleds didn't have any physical handicap to prevent them from discovering/building warp drive, so thats not quite the best comparison here. All it would take is for one "special" Pakled (theie version of a genius) to make the discovery.

Remember people, no matter how they are portrayed they CANNOT be as dumb as they appear. They have managed as a race not only to survive but to thrive, overcoming likely similar trials that every other species in Trek did.

Maybe we just saw an unusually dumb crew?

[Sionnach Glic]

Sorry, I should have allowed for that. That statement was intended to allow for the successful purchase/barter/discovery (ie FINDING)/receiving the gift of/or theft of tech.

Ah, alright.

As I remember, the Pakleds didn't have any physical handicap to prevent them from discovering/building warp drive, so thats not quite the best comparison here. All it would take is for one "special" Pakled (theie version of a genius) to make the discovery.

And it needs other such special Pakleds to create manufacturing facilities to reproduce the tech in question, know how to maintain them and install them.

Remember people, no matter how they are portrayed they CANNOT be as dumb as they appear. They have managed as a race not only to survive but to thrive, overcoming likely similar trials that every other species in Trek did

So have the Ocampa, despite evolution practicaly dictating that they should be extinct. I'd put the Pakled's success down to everyone else just ignoring them and letting them do what they want. They're not exactly a great threat.

Maybe we just saw an unusually dumb crew?

Ah, the Pakled version of Golgafrinchian Ark Ship B?

[Mark]

Exactly