Oberth Layout Issues

[kostmayer]

Aye, with no holodecks on board and long science expeditions, I reckon there'd be a few crew members making illicitit excursions up the Jeffries tube.

[Lazar]

[Mikey]

Its rather unlikely, but is there anything in Trek Canon that says the bridge is actually in the saucer section? Could the saucer contain engineering and the warp core, and the bridge be in the pod?

Not in canon per se, but one of Roddenberry's design rules was that the bridge gots to be on top.

Another possibility is that the two hulls are connected with Jefferies' Tubes. You can move from one hull to the other, but you'd have to have a pretty good reason to expend all that effort.

I like that idea. I think it fits pretty well. And considering the relatively small crew size of such a small ship, there probably wouldn't be more than a double-handful of folks in the engineering hull at any one time anyway.

[Tsukiyumi]

The Jefferies' Tube idea is the best explanation I've heard to date; a turbolift just couldn't reasonably fit into those scrawny pylons.

Oberth discussion split from Stitch's Admiralty thread.

[Aaron]

Indeed. There is no reason other than sentiment why they would need a lift in the pylons, TOS had ladders all over the place between decks.

[Sionnach Glic]

That would make moving equipment to and from each section of the hull one hell of a bitch, though.

Jesus, who the hell designed that thing anyway?

[Tsukiyumi]

That would make moving equipment to and from each section of the hull one hell of a bitch, though.

Jesus, who the hell designed that thing anyway?

1) They could always use transporters for that. Also, they could have a small "spare parts" bay in the saucer.

2) Morons.

[Mark]

Actually, it wouldn't have to even be inconvienient. Just turn off the gravity in the "tube", and float from one end to the other

[Aaron]

Actually, it wouldn't have to even be inconvienient. Just turn off the gravity in the "tube", and float from one end to the other

You'd still have the issue of the size of the shaft.

[kostmayer]

Actually, it wouldn't have to even be inconvienient. Just turn off the gravity in the "tube", and float from one end to the other

You'd still have the issue of the size of the shaft.

*sits on hands*

[Aaron]

That would make moving equipment to and from each section of the hull one hell of a bitch, though.

Jesus, who the hell designed that thing anyway?

When STIII came out a bunch of my friends and I (plus my father) just assumed the secondary hull was automated. I still like that explanation and it has the side benefit of making SF a little more awesome.

[Tsukiyumi]

You'd still have the issue of the size of the shaft.

That does always seem to be the issue, doesn't it?

*sits on hands*

Don't cut off circulation for too long; you might need those hands for something at some point.

When STIII came out a bunch of my friends and I (plus my father) just assumed the secondary hull was automated. I still like that explanation and it has the side benefit of making SF a little more awesome.

Then you have the issue of accommodation; all 80 people in the saucer section would be rather close quarters.

[Aaron]

Then you have the issue of accommodation; all 80 people in the saucer section would be rather close quarters.

*shrug* Is there some rule that SF ships have to have oodles of room?

[Captain Seafort]

*shrug* Is there some rule that Kirk-era SF ships have to have oodles of room?

Fixed it for you.

[Aaron]

Fixed it for you.

Thanks. Seriously folks, take a look at the accommodations on a modern warship. Bunks stacked three high with your kit underneath and one (maybe two) locker for the rest. The Defiant is the best Trek example.