17km Sovereign

[Teaos]

OK, ok, I know most of us have seen this many times and have all had a laugh.

But everytime I looked at it I only got to the 17km bit and started laughing. But the whole ship is just awesome.

Length 16764m, Mass 4,000,000,000 tons

Yeah ok this is just stupid. But I love how he came us with a rather random number 16,764 for the length, but had a nice round number for the mass.

Something that made me laugh when I thought about it, I heard somewhere that the weight of the air in a 747 is 2 tonnes and is actually taken into account in the mass of it. Imagin the weight of the air in this thing.

Then there is the little things like hundred meter high meters.

270 degrees/sec maneuverability

A 3/4 turn in a second? In a ship that is 17km long? Is that even possible? Imagin the forces inside this ship...

Warp 15 (11,390,625c) Cruise, Warp 24 (191,102,976c) Emergency

Ok I wasnt positive how to work this out... however. I quickly ran the numbers and it seems as if this ship can cross the 70,000ly that Voyager needed 70 years to cover in about 2 days...

From what I can tell one of the big points this guy keeps making is that we cant prove him wrong (yeah right) or at the least there is a little bit of proof for his side (like the trip to the centre of the Galaxy in a few hours...).

But unless we believe Voyager is a few thousand times slower than a Sovereign this is just reatarded. Even if Voyager was that slow why didnt they just send a Sov to pick it up...

5250 Type-12 megaphasers (7.2 megayottawatts) in 18 arrays

Ok so 5250 mega phasers.... firstly it seems he thinks an array is just a series of phaser emplacements, which from what I've seen isnt really how it works. Second... over five thousand... little excessive maybe.

6 Type-10 rapid-fire quantum torpedo tubes (@15 torpedoes / s) with @4500 casings
12 Type-8 rapid-fire quantum torpedo tubes (@10 torpedoes / s) with @3000 casings
24 Type-6 burst-fire quantum torpedo tubes (@12 torpedoes / 2s) with @1800 casings

40 tubes? I dont think we quite saw that many. But it amuses me to think that since this ship is scaled up to 17km one of the visible tubes could probably fire and Intrepid out of them... 15 of them a second apparently as well.

It can fire a fucking fleet!

Castrodium/neutronium triple hull
710cm active deflector plating, 420cm high-density reactive armor, 245cm multilayer ablative arm

Fuck yeah 13m of armour!!!!!

Also this guy needs to do some math cause I'm pretty sure Neutronium armour would weight more than he seems to think. Also it would likely slow it down and have it be slightly less agile than 270 degrees a second.


And here are some of his awesome techno babble words

megayottawatts
isoteraton
gigayottawatt
petayottawatt
megacochrane

[Deepcrush]

I think of this guy like I do most people of the world. A sad joke in life and great waste of air.

[Lazar]

[Deepcrush]

Yes, it is funny. Until you think about the fact that this person may breed. There could be dozens of little GWs running around one day. Each one more pathetic then the last.

[Tsukiyumi]

Warp 15 (11,390,625c) Cruise, Warp 24 (191,102,976c) Emergency

Huh. His "Warp 24" corresponds exactly to GK's warp 576 on the Cochrane scale.

It also means that you could reach the Andromeda galaxy in a little under 4 days at that speed...

The "Warp 15" standard cruise is also identical to warp 225, and yeah, it would take 2 days, 5 hours to cross 70,000 ly.

[Teaos]

Kind of streches credability.

[Tsukiyumi]

Kind of streches credability.

Maybe a little bit.

[Sionnach Glic]

Man, I'd forgotten how dumb that thing was.

[Graham Kennedy]

Are we really going to do this *again*?

I mean... how many times can you say something is stupid before you look stupid for spending the time on it that you are?

[Aaron]

I think its more an interesting look into this guys mind then it is about anything cool or Trek related.

[Tsukiyumi]

I think its more an interesting look into this guys mind then it is about anything cool or Trek related.

Agreed.

[Teaos]

He has pages from Trek and pages from Wars. And he never directly compares them. Yet it is blatantly obvious what he thinks. He gives TIE fighters lasers with a power of 10 J not 10 KJ or TJ's but 10 single jouls. Which treknology has 1^78 J power.

I'm thinking he is a Wars Vs Trek debater who got his arse handed to him so many times he made his own grosely exagerated trek canon to point at.

But it is SO extreme as to make me think it is almost a parody.

I mean, this guy seems to have a decent grasp of physics even if he does abuse it. So he must realise that a laser with the power of 10J would not even give you a tan.

The more I think about it the more I think it is a parody site done by a Wars fan to mock Trekies.

[Sionnach Glic]

10 joules? I think my lightbulbs have more power than that.

[Teaos]

I would think so, I'm not great at converting Watts to J ect but I'm sure a 60 Watt bulb would use more than 10J...

Reading the rest of the site I'm more and more convinced its a parody.

He claims the Death stars main beam weapon is around the same power level as a SINGLE type XII Phaser. So the Sovereign is a system buster apparently...

[Nutso]

1 Watt = 1 Joules/second.

10 Watts = 10 Joules/second.

So a 60 Watt light bulb has a flow of 60 Joules of energy a second. If you leave a 60 Watt light bulb on for 1 minute, it would use 3,600 Joules in that minute.

If you own a 60 Watt light bulb, you're more powerful than a space fighter in this guy's fantasies.

Edit: I did some research about modern lasers. I found a FAQ about a laser welder. It takes 4-8 Joules to weld platinum, and upwards of 30+ Joules to weld silver.
Energy in a Laser Welder