The Borg.....Better or Worse
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Re: The Borg.....Better or Worse
Thing is, at least in ESB, Yoda spoke a number of times in 'standard' English. I think back then it was basically to fool Luke a bit.
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Am I correct if Yoda speaks as if he uses latin sentence construction using English words? My very limited knowledge of Latin grammar seems to indicate that.
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In a basic way, yes. I'd call it more akin to the American Amish - they speak English, but with their cultural German grammar, leading to sentences like "Throw Momma from the train a kiss."
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I don't think they had Latin, or the Amish, in mind when they designed Yoda's speech patterns. I think they just muddled the sentence up a bit while still maintaining clarity.
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Aye. They very probably didn't follow any particular codified rules, but there would have to be some sort of implicit structure to Yoda's speech for it to be intelligible. Thus, there has to be a Yoda grammar, even if none was specifically laid out for the character, which to be intelligible would have to follow basic rules similar to some Human languages (e.g., Latin or Amish English) and, of course, the underlying rules governing all human languages.
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In a sense, Rochey's right - just muddled English. Latin, and most languages in the world, are inflected to denote syntactical relationships so there wouldn't be such questions of grammar.
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Presumably there is, but I can't be bothered trying to find it. The closest I've ever gotten to finding out any real Yoda-grammar was the exchange about Yoda on the Rifftrax version of Revenge of the Sith:Thus, there has to be a Yoda grammar, even if none was specifically laid out for the character, which to be intelligible would have to follow basic rules similar to some Human languages (e.g., Latin or Amish English) and, of course, the underlying rules governing all human languages.
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I wonder why the Borg don't seem to have any psionic abilities. Surely they must have adapted some mentally superior races.
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We know they got some Vulcans. Maybe the assimilation process blocks those sort of abilities.Mark wrote:I wonder why the Borg don't seem to have any psionic abilities. Surely they must have adapted some mentally superior races.
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I agree that is most likely, but you'd think that would be a waste, wouldn't you?
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I'd guess not being able to use your own mind precludes using your own mental abilities.
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But the overall collective COULD use your mind. Imagine if a strong telepathic race that reads minds could be assimilated. The Borg would know what you were going to do before you did it, making them invincible. After all, innovation seems to be the only thing the Borg are vulnerable too. Well, that and Voyager.
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Re: The Borg.....Better or Worse
What I'm saying is that individual drones, at least those still fully ensconced in the collective, don't seem to have their own cognitive abilities - everything gets processed through their link to the collective. Those individual cognitive abilities could very well be necessary to actuate psi powers.
zing!Mark wrote:Well, that and Voyager.
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