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The Redshirts
I always wondered: What are the functions of the "Redshirts" in TNG/DS9/VOY - era. I mean, red means command, doesn't it? Why do only the CO, XO, the helmsmen and some other unnamed crewmen/women wear red? Shouldn't all departement heads wear red uniforms? In the "Staff Breakdown - Thread", about 100 Redshirts are estimated - what are they doing all day?
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Good question. In TOS red was engineering, communications and security, gold command and helm/navigation, and blue science and medical. It was a nice balance to the three colors. Red denoted support functions, yellow ship command and guidance, and blue mission and crew support. Although, now that I think of it, at least one scientist was in red (Khan's woman).Mithrandir wrote:I always wondered: What are the functions of the "Redshirts" in TNG/DS9/VOY - era. I mean, red means command, doesn't it? Why do only the CO, XO, the helmsmen and some other unnamed crewmen/women wear red? Shouldn't all departement heads wear red uniforms? In the "Staff Breakdown - Thread", about 100 Redshirts are estimated - what are they doing all day?
Looking at it, really the only change is the red and gold colors, along with the creative decision to put a single helmsman up front. Also, Ops seemed to take over navigation which meant one less redshirt on the bridge. I think if they were going to go that route they might as well have eliminated red altogether save for command.
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I think it would get to confusing having department heads being red rather than their department colour.
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I don't see the illogic of the current design.
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It may not be illogical - I just do not understand it! What are the functions of the redshirts?
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Solely command, as best as I know. At least according to Memory Alpha.
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They probably function as officers.
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As I understand it, command and administration. Also, junior officers on a "command" track as well (ie season 1 Work and LaForge).Bryan Moore wrote:Solely command, as best as I know. At least according to Memory Alpha.
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Ok. Administration. Why is Data in gold. I mean, isn't ships operations also an administrative service?
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Not really. Operations is actually what they call the day to day running of the ship if I understand correctly. All three Operations officers we've seen; Data, O'Brian, and Kim all wore gold.Mithrandir wrote:Ok. Administration. Why is Data in gold. I mean, isn't ships operations also an administrative service?
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Exactly. Day-to-day services - ops, engineering, security - wear gold. The dept. heads wear their branch colors, not red, because that's technically where they're assigned. Being CMO, for example, doesn't mean that you're no longer a doctor.
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Which also explains why Operations Officers, Security Chiefs, Chief Engineers, and Science Officers (like Dax) still wear their dept color)Mikey wrote:Exactly. Day-to-day services - ops, engineering, security - wear gold. The dept. heads wear their branch colors, not red, because that's technically where they're assigned. Being CMO, for example, doesn't mean that you're no longer a doctor.
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Exactly. A chief of engineering is still assigned to the Engineering branch.
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I still do not see what's left to do for the redshirts, but I am after all only an unenlightened guy from "old europe".
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*bites knuckle, avoids making shirt-color joke*
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