What would you fix on the E-D?

Nickswitz · Post by **Nickswitz** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:29 pm

Wait. I don't remember the early epps of VOY. The Kazon hacked voyager. What, did Tuvok hand them the security codes or something. They aren't anything close to smart.

Post by **Teaos** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:31 pm

What security codes...

Nickswitz · Post by **Nickswitz** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:29 pm

Oh right. That makes more sense.

Sonic Glitch · Post by **Sonic Glitch** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:39 pm

Rochey wrote:
And about the Iconian Virus-it was fricking SUPER ADVANCED. Even with Firewalls and everything, they would have made absolutely NO difference.
We've been over that scenario before. There should have been no way for the virus to get into the computers at all without someone on the ship letting it.
And since when was it "super advanced"?

Since we were told the Iconians were a super-advancded extinct race? They had STARGATES for crying out loud!

It was definitely stated (or implied) that the Iconians were above Federation technology when they died out.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:45 pm

me,myself and I wrote:Since we were told the Iconians were a super-advancded extinct race? They had STARGATES for crying out loud! It was definitely stated (or implied) that the Iconians were above Federation technology when they died out.

The Iconian gateways were more advanced than Stargates - they were capable of going pretty much anywhere, while the Stargates were limited to Gate-to-Gate travel. Nontheless, the Iconian programme shouldn't even have been run by the Yamato's computer. It was, as was the alien programme in "Masks". This shows that Fed computer security is inferior to basic anti-spam software.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:49 pm

Fair enough, though the fact remains that the virus shouldn't have been able to get into the computer at all unless someone allowed it to.

For example, I'm sure everyone here has, at some point, gotten or heard of one of those emails with a virus attatched. It comes in a file that is atatched to the email. However, it can't affect your computer unless you open the file and let it onto your computer. The same holds true here. Regardless of how advanced it was, it would have needed someone to let it onto the ship if it had basic security. It can't get the computer to let it on, because it can only control the computer after it's let in. Therefore the only conclusion is that they don't have any security for their computers (or that they do, but are inferior to the security on your average email acount).

kostmayer · Post by **kostmayer** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:58 pm

And finally, why did it take Data dying (yet again) for Geordi to realise that all they had to do was wipe the computer and replace it from a backup?

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:02 pm

The same reason that can be given for most of these simple solutions getting passed up:

Starfleet are stupid.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:04 pm

Even Microsoft can do better than Starfleet.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:10 pm

I'm begining to think Starfleet uses MS as their operating system. It would explain why everything on the ship breaks or explodes at the drop of a hat.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:13 pm

Well its certainly not vista. Vista bogs itself down with security. Windows 2370?

Nickswitz · Post by **Nickswitz** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:15 pm

It works slower than ever!

Sonic Glitch · Post by **Sonic Glitch** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:49 pm

Rochey wrote:Fair enough, though the fact remains that the virus shouldn't have been able to get into the computer at all unless someone allowed it to.

For example, I'm sure everyone here has, at some point, gotten or heard of one of those emails with a virus attatched. It comes in a file that is atatched to the email. However, it can't affect your computer unless you open the file and let it onto your computer. The same holds true here. Regardless of how advanced it was, it would have needed someone to let it onto the ship if it had basic security. It can't get the computer to let it on, because it can only control the computer after it's let in. Therefore the only conclusion is that they don't have any security for their computers (or that they do, but are inferior to the security on your average email acount).

It stowed away in the logs they downloaded from the Yamato it was not an attachment so there was no obvious threat. All they did was transfer the recorded logs from their sister ship in an effort to find out WTF happened.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:58 pm

me,myself and I wrote:It stowed away in the logs they downloaded from the Yamato it was not an attachment so there was no obvious threat. All they did was transfer the recorded logs from their sister ship in an effort to find out WTF happened.

The point is that they didn't scan the logs for malicious code before they opened them - if they had then they wouldn't have had the problems they did.

Moreover your point doesn't address how the virus got into the Yamato's computer, nor how much the same happened to the Enterprise in "Masks".

Post by **Teaos** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:44 am

Reliant121 wrote:Even Microsoft can do better than Starfleet.

Lets not go nuts...

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