SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

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SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby Captain Seafort » Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:39 pm

Blip

A decent, solid review, albeit unremarkable.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:45 pm

I really do like the beginning, there.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby Captain Seafort » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:56 pm

Pity he didn't comment on Plan A for Wesley though.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:05 pm

yeah... but methinks he might've gotten a bit distracted with glee at that bit. ;)
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby Tyyr » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:07 pm

It is a rather unremarkable review but then it's such a good episode what are you really going to rip on? What can you use as a springboard for comedy with it? I think he did a good job covering what made this episode so great.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby Mikey » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:12 pm

Tyyr wrote:It is a rather unremarkable review but then it's such a good episode what are you really going to rip on? What can you use as a springboard for comedy with it? I think he did a good job covering what made this episode so great.


Exactly my thoughts. There's not much to rip, but at the same time it's not one of the more philosophical arty eps that can launch some erudite debate.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby Tyyr » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:39 pm

It tells a very straight forward story remarkably well and it's the little details that make it work so good, like Picard referring to Riker as Commander instead of "Number one." It's those little things that help to build it up so well.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby McAvoy » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:03 pm

I guess you could debate what happened to the Federation to lose a war and why and how a war could last twenty years. Or you could question how a rift can open with photon torpedoes.

He did touch alittle on the paradox about alternate Yar surviving in a universe where Yar died by the Tar Monster.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby Tyyr » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:17 pm

Wars have lasted longer than 20 years. Given the scale we're talking about a very long war is a real possibility if the Klingons are intent on invading and conquering every world they take.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby stitch626 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:04 pm

Tyyr wrote:Wars have lasted longer than 20 years. Given the scale we're talking about a very long war is a real possibility if the Klingons are intent on invading and conquering every world they take.

Especially considering how large both the Federation and the Klingon Empire are, along with the general terribleness of ground troops in Trek, I could see any real takeover war take centuries.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby Deepcrush » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:02 pm

Considering that the UFP was on the very edge of surrender, that 20 year war was about to be quits and I doubt Starfleet was far behind. 40 billion dead isn't easy to turn aside.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby McAvoy » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:35 pm

It is interesting though. 40 billion dead in a twenty year war vs. Ten years later they are talking about 900 billion dead. Two powers, 40 billion dead, vs. Four or five powers 900 billion dead.

I wonder what of Starfleet/UFP being at peace with the Klingons created a much larger population.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby Deepcrush » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:53 pm

Where did you get 900 billion dead from?
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby McAvoy » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:20 pm

The episode where Three Stooges and Julian Bashier do stats for winning or the case of the episode losing the war. I mean 900 projected dead not how many were actually killed in the war.
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Re: SFDebris: Yesterday's Enterprise

Postby Deepcrush » Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:58 am

Well it was 40 billion dead just between the UFP/KE. The 900 billion possible projection came with factoring in a war across two Quadrants. So the scale of it is extremely different.
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