SFDebris: The Final Frontier

[Captain Seafort]

He said it could have been a three way tie, but this film got the "bonus points" for the spot. Also, if he's scaling them versus the other 9, wouldn't the scale be 1-10 as a 0-10 scale makes it seem like 11 things are being compared?

11 films are being compared - the point of these reviews is to lead up to neoTrek.

To those trumpeting Nemesis, TFF beats it hands down, thanks to having some of the best scenes in Trek amid the dross.

[Sonic Glitch]

He said it could have been a three way tie, but this film got the "bonus points" for the spot. Also, if he's scaling them versus the other 9, wouldn't the scale be 1-10 as a 0-10 scale makes it seem like 11 things are being compared?

11 films are being compared - the point of these reviews is to lead up to neoTrek.

To those trumpeting Nemesis, TFF beats it hands down, thanks to having some of the best scenes in Trek amid the dross.

Ah, so he does intend to review nuTrek. Didn't know that, thanks.

As for me, I like Nemesis (do i realize in hindsight there are some plotholes big enough to fly the neoEnterprise through? Yes. Does it affect my enjoyment of the movie? No) but that's a debate neither side will win as it's opinion based, not fact based While I like it, I understand why most don't.

[kostmayer]

I've picked holes in Nemesis myself, but I still seem to find myself watching it whenever it is on, albeit in the background.

As for The Final Frontier, it did have a (very) few good parts. In paticular the campfire scene, and Spock standing up to the Klingon Ambassador.

[Reliant121]

There is good in all things, even if it is merely a moment.

[Tyyr]

I don't think he's ranking them, just rating them as usual so he doesn't need to do 0-10 to accommodate everything.

[Sonic Glitch]

I don't think he's ranking them, just rating them as usual so he doesn't need to do 0-10 to accommodate everything.

Well he has said they're scored relative to the other films. I just don't remember if he said "other 10" or "other 9"

[Lazar]

Well he has said they're scored relative to the other films. I just don't remember if he said "other 10" or "other 9"

He has clips of STXI in his opening montage; I have no doubt that he's going to review it.

[Captain Seafort]

Well he has said they're scored relative to the other films. I just don't remember if he said "other 10" or "other 9"

He has clips of STXI in his opening montage; I have no doubt that he's going to review it.

He also outright stated in the intro to the TMP review that he's "going to review all eleven Trek movies" .

[Tyyr]

Well he has said they're scored relative to the other films. I just don't remember if he said "other 10" or "other 9"

Scored, not ranked.

He could give three of the movies all 5's for being perfectly average.

[Lazar]

He could give three of the movies all 5's for being perfectly average.

True - he uses the same 0-10 rating scale for the series, so it doesn't have anything to do with the number of items being compared.

[Mark]

I remember watching this movie in theaters on opening weekend when I was a kid. Spocks mysterious and never before mentioned half brother sounded like something from a bad soap opera even then. And I'm not even going to comment on the "Search for God" on a myserious planet

[Mikey]

Yep. To me, "mailed in" sums up this one.

[Lazar]

I remember watching this movie in theaters on opening weekend when I was a kid. Spocks mysterious and never before mentioned half brother sounded like something from a bad soap opera even then. And I'm not even going to comment on the "Search for God" on a myserious planet

My favorite thing is the fact that they can travel to the center of the Galaxy in 6 hours, and Sybok rubs it in by saying "We have traveled far!" Fakegod should have changed his face to the O RLY owl for that one.

[Mark]

But, you gotta admit....we did get ONE good line out of that movie.........

Kirk: "What does God need with a Starship?"

[kostmayer]

I wonder if anyone at Starfleet Command asked him the same question in TMP when he demanded command of the Enterprise.