Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby Sionnach Glic » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:07 pm

Mark wrote:I also can't believe that Checkov never even metioned to Terell, "By the vay Keptin, de Ceti Alpha system, dis is vere de Enterprise madooned Khan and dos supermen."


Chekov wasn't part of the bridge crew at that point. He may not have known where they were at the time.
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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby thelordharry » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:15 pm

Fair enough but Khan did know Chekov by sight though. I guess that's likely to mean that they were 'introduced' to each other.
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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby Sonic Glitch » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:18 pm

thelordharry wrote:Fair enough but Khan did know Chekov by sight though. I guess that's likely to mean that they were 'introduced' to each other.

I seem to recall reading somewhere, I believe on Trekmovie.com that Ricardo Montalban said in an interview that he likes to think Chekov was a poor junior officer somewhere who held Khan up trying to use the bathroom. :lol:
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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby Captain Seafort » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:34 pm

Mikey wrote:The goalposts haven't changed - the authority to try Khan and the right to sentence him are inextricably bound. The relative leniency of the sentence is immaterial.


I'm not talking about the fact of the sentencing but the details of it. You went from this:

Khan was a civilian, and should have been remanded to the court system for trial and sentencing.


Arguing against Khan's marooning because he should have been sent to a civilian court. To this:

I guess the wicket is this: was Kirk out of bounds in applying the sentence that he did? In other words, was banishment to the planet a charted response to the crime?


Implying that your problem is now with the sentence itself rather than its origin.
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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby Mikey » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:38 pm

I don't see the dichotomy that you seem to. Ah well, we probably don't like the same foods either.
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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:34 am

Sonic Glitch wrote:
thelordharry wrote:Fair enough but Khan did know Chekov by sight though. I guess that's likely to mean that they were 'introduced' to each other.

I seem to recall reading somewhere, I believe on Trekmovie.com that Ricardo Montalban said in an interview that he likes to think Chekov was a poor junior officer somewhere who held Khan up trying to use the bathroom. :lol:


That's what Waler Koenig said at a convention I went to as well.
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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby Sonic Glitch » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:47 am

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Sonic Glitch wrote:
thelordharry wrote:Fair enough but Khan did know Chekov by sight though. I guess that's likely to mean that they were 'introduced' to each other.

I seem to recall reading somewhere, I believe on Trekmovie.com that Ricardo Montalban said in an interview that he likes to think Chekov was a poor junior officer somewhere who held Khan up trying to use the bathroom. :lol:


That's what Waler Koenig said at a convention I went to as well.

Or maybe it was Koenig. It was one of the two... :worried:
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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:30 am

Or both? :lol:
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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby Aaron » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:56 am

The EU novels that follow Khan and his exile have an excellent explanation for it, Chekov was the officer in charge of setting them up on the planet and escorting them down.
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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby Mark » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:43 pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:The EU novels that follow Khan and his exile have an excellent explanation for it, Chekov was the officer in charge of setting them up on the planet and escorting them down.



That being the case, you'd have figured he would have said something to Terell. Unless for some reason is was classified???
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Re: Kirk's Worst Command Decisions

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:23 pm

All right. No new ones, so I'll submit this list for a new poll. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to reply. :)
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