Teaos wrote:With a cloak and first strike it becomes a lot more even. With a perfect ambush and the first one or two salvos going to the Klingons I'd say they could almost pull it off.
In a fair fight the Feds have it, but there is no such thing as a fair fight...
Reliant121 wrote:Which would lend itself to the Klingon's being quite good with battle tactics. So would you say the the klingons in the D-7 era replicated cardassian tactics? The D-7 can sort of be equated to the Galor in a way. I imagine the D-7 was built to combat the TOS mk. Miranda's (if they existed, which i am of the opinion they did) much like the Galor was built to combat the Ambassador/Akira etc. When the Connies came in (like the Nebula) it instantly made the D-7/Galor classes obsolete. It would be to expensive to design another completely new ship and completely right off a perfectly capable design, so why not operate the numerical advantage and have "Wolfpacks".
Deepcrush wrote:The first Klingon ship I remember seeing with a cloak was the BoP. I always took it as the Klingons didn't get the cloak until much later.
Even if they did have the cloak (which I don't believe they did) it didn't seem to help them much. In STIII, a BoP was cloaked and launched a surprise attack on the E-nil and still couldn't believe they were in one piece after wards.
Deepcrush wrote:Maybe, maybe not. Look at the number of hits the E-A took in STVI. Even with her shields down. The ship held together.
Also, the D-7 would have too drop cloak. A very very risky thing if the Connie even catches a hint that she's coming. Or, if its the E-nil which always seems to have weapons and shields ready.
Captain Seafort wrote:The E-A only took one hit without shields, and it punched a hole clean through the saucer. That's from a BoP which is, presumably heavilly outgunned by the far larger battlecruiser.
Captain Seafort wrote:Agreed, especially as the early cloaks were far easier to see through. My point was that if a D7's alpha strike hit the Connie without shields it could be crippled. That's no small if.
Deepcrush wrote:I thought they took more then that.
But either way, were the Klingons using different PTs for their BoP then they would for the D-7?
If not then the opening damage would be about the same. Since charging their energy weapons would give them away.
Captain Seafort wrote:They took about eight or nine all told, but only that last hit occurred after the shields failed.
If charging weapons would give them away, that would apply just as much to the PT launcher as the disruptors; you need power to fire them as well.
Deepcrush wrote:If charging weapons would give them away, that would apply just as much to the PT launcher as the disruptors; you need power to fire them as well.
Powering up a large energy array is a lot more visible then turning on a missile.
Captain Seafort wrote:How about the energy required to accelerate said missile out of the tube?
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