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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Mikey » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:40 pm

Certainly possible. I just hate having to accept an explanation that presupposes a less-than-likely "what if?" scenario.
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Tyyr » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:43 pm

*Shrug* Just advancing it as a possibility. Frankly the Klingons and Romulans sharing any designs is one of those things that bugged me. Like someone wrote a script and at the last moment they changed Romulan to Klingon in the script and notified the makeup and wardrobe departments.
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Mikey » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:46 pm

Well, more like Roddenberry couldn't afford an extra model, but that hardly helps with an IU explanation...
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Captain Seafort » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:44 pm

You mean after they broke the first one?
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Mikey » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:37 pm

From what I understand, they couldn't really afford even the one that they had...
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Lazar » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:13 pm

Tyyr wrote:Like someone wrote a script and at the last moment they changed Romulan to Klingon in the script and notified the makeup and wardrobe departments.

Something like that did happen with STIII, when they changed the villains from Romulans to Klingons, giving us the Klingon BOP. (A cool design, but I would have loved to see a movie-era Romulan ship too.)

With the Romulan use of D7s, the (speculative) impression I got was that now that the Romulans had opened up again to the outside universe after a century of isolation, they were desperate for some ship designs that were on par with the other powers. The BOP was designed to be good at making big sneak attacks, but overall it seemed rather primitive compared to the Federation and Klingon ships.

Mikey wrote:From what I understand, they couldn't really afford even the one that they had...

So did they lose or break the Romulan BOP model? We only saw it the once.
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Captain Seafort » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:20 pm

Lazar wrote:
Mikey wrote:From what I understand, they couldn't really afford even the one that they had...

So did they lose or break the Romulan BOP model? We only saw it the once.


Twice - it turned up in "The Deadly Years" as well (although that may have been reused footage, I'm not sure)

And they dropped it, it broke, and they had to scramble to replace it with the D-7 model.
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Lazar » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:02 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:Twice - it turned up in "The Deadly Years" as well (although that may have been reused footage, I'm not sure)

I just checked - yeah, it looks like they reused the footage from BoT.
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:05 pm

Beat me to it, Lazar. lol.

The Romulans might've been reaching out to any non-Federation powers at the time, looking for an alliance. The Klingons might've said yes, but then the two groups realized how badly contact was going...
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Mark » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:24 am

Or not an alliance at all. Just a one time exchange. Starfleet never would have "sold" the Romulans ships for cloaking tech nor would the Romulans even have asked (they thought Starfleet was to big a threat). The Klingons, however......... a one time "sale" of military hardware. Say, half a dozen D7s for cloaking device tech AND a functioning unit as well.

Actually seems like a reasonable trade to me.
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby steamrunner » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:23 am

I like the trade idea. I've kinda seen this as an attempt to bolster numbers of ships. Perhaps the Klingons were like the old Soviet Union making WAY more MiGs than they needed.
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Sionnach Glic » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:00 am

Aye, I can see the KE selling ships.
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Mikey » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:41 pm

Especially for something as game-changing as cloaking technology.

BTW, the USSR didn't build "extra" anything - Soviet designs were just expected to have high losses.
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Mark » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:42 am

As would a species who we later learn believe in death in glorious combat.
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Re: of klingon design....

Postby Sionnach Glic » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:28 pm

And whose idea of WW2 era tactics was to charge a frickin' Wehrmacht machine gun emplacement.
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