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Postby McAvoy » Thu May 03, 2012 1:42 am

Somebody explain to me the appeal of fanwanking?

I have been aruging with this person about her 14 kilometer troop transport is incredibly unrealistic. Basically she in some sort of RPG where even her ship is tiny. Basically everyone in that RPG builds these giant ships of whatever race they want with no regard of cost. She told me that building smaller is of no use to her and if she wanted to she would build a 40 km if she had to.

I was trying to figure out why these ships were so large whether it was technological limitations, or whatever. Basically it came down to wanting to have large ships with lots of cool stuff on it.

I am just trying to understand the whole concept.
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby Graham Kennedy » Thu May 03, 2012 2:04 am

For some people, bigger is better. Size = power, strength, awesomeness.

It's probably all down to something rather freudian.
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby Tsukiyumi » Thu May 03, 2012 2:57 am

Damned modern kids have no sense of scale or awe. :lol:
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby McAvoy » Thu May 03, 2012 4:30 am

GrahamKennedy wrote:For some people, bigger is better. Size = power, strength, awesomeness.

It's probably all down to something rather freudian.


Pretty much. There were other people telling her that her ship was unrealistic and she got very defensive about it. I mean battleships are cool and everything. They are big and powerful looking. But there are also destroyers and cruisers that have specific tasks such as protecting the battleship or scouting. Those are interesting ships in themselves. Yet everyone wants a fleet of battleships because destroyers are for pussies.

14 kilometer troop transport. She didn't understand that if she lost this ship she would lose the 12 million soldiers she onboard and that it was better to have 100 ships or even more with the troops spread out that even losing several would not be a complete total lose.
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby Deepcrush » Thu May 03, 2012 4:40 am

To be fair, the size of the ships could also be due to In-Universe issues. In B5, ships are huge compared to their crew numbers because of the fuel and other material needs to upkeep ships for extended periods. In Warhammer, they're even larger for the same reason. There was a note in one of the IG series that listed a fleet of 20+km troop transports. Each carrying as many as a million troops each with as many support persons and crew. However this force was being sent to invade a whole planet so it makes sense.

If her 40km ship is transporting a couple million troops and the supplies needed to feed them for several years of combat, I don't see why its a problem.
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby McAvoy » Thu May 03, 2012 6:03 am

Her reasoning was that wanted the ship to be that large. She didn't want anything smaller. Her exact reason. I asked her if everyone scaled down their ships by a factor of ten would it have mattered and she no.

Aside from that she gave no other reasons why they were so large.

14 or 40 kilometer ship is excessively large for a troop transport. I personally don't have an issue with large ships if there is a reason behind it.
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby Deepcrush » Thu May 03, 2012 6:14 am

McAvoy wrote:Her reasoning was that wanted the ship to be that large. She didn't want anything smaller. Her exact reason. I asked her if everyone scaled down their ships by a factor of ten would it have mattered and she no.

Aside from that she gave no other reasons why they were so large.


Is there a logistical reason IU that she couldn't produce such a ship?

McAvoy wrote:14 or 40 kilometer ship is excessively large for a troop transport. I personally don't have an issue with large ships if there is a reason behind it.


Its not excessively large if its cargo fills it.
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby Mikey » Thu May 03, 2012 11:11 am

I agree with GK. Deep's right in saying that if a true IU reason exists for the size of the ship, then it's not really wanking; but it doesn't seem to me that your friend has such a reason. To me, the opposite extreme makes more sense - a ship as small as possible for the required capacity and/or capabilities seems a lot better... but I guess I have less "size" or envy issues than some.
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby McAvoy » Thu May 03, 2012 4:27 pm

Deepcrush wrote:
McAvoy wrote:Her reasoning was that wanted the ship to be that large. She didn't want anything smaller. Her exact reason. I asked her if everyone scaled down their ships by a factor of ten would it have mattered and she no.

Aside from that she gave no other reasons why they were so large.


Is there a logistical reason IU that she couldn't produce such a ship?

McAvoy wrote:14 or 40 kilometer ship is excessively large for a troop transport. I personally don't have an issue with large ships if there is a reason behind it.


Its not excessively large if its cargo fills it.


Actually yes. Her technology is based on a combination of Star Trek and Stargate technology. Her area of resources and including population is perhaps that of two Earths. She apparently has a half dozen of these ships while having 14 kilometer mobile shipyard and 13 23km 'destroyers'.

Well I just found out these ships have magic capabilities... so nevermind anyway.

But we can still discuss why people to like fanwank ships...
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby Deepcrush » Thu May 03, 2012 5:29 pm

A large space based troop transport can be useful. For not the least of which is that you can make it very hard to kill. However, in a ST/SG crossover, there isn't any reason sub a ship could even be built.

As to fanwanking, remember that everyone wants to have the at something. For some, bigger ship automatically means better.
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby Sonic Glitch » Thu May 03, 2012 5:35 pm

McAvoy wrote:
Well I just found out these ships have magic capabilities... so nevermind anyway.


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Re: Fanwanking

Postby Jim » Thu May 03, 2012 5:36 pm

I do not know what fanwanking is... but I feel dirty saying it...
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby Captain Seafort » Thu May 03, 2012 5:40 pm

Sonic Glitch wrote:
McAvoy wrote:
Well I just found out these ships have magic capabilities... so nevermind anyway.


Naquadria?


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Re: Fanwanking

Postby McAvoy » Thu May 03, 2012 5:48 pm

Sonic Glitch wrote:
McAvoy wrote:
Well I just found out these ships have magic capabilities... so nevermind anyway.


Naquadria?


Magic. Along with mana draining technology.

Deepcrush wrote:A large space based troop transport can be useful. For not the least of which is that you can make it very hard to kill. However, in a ST/SG crossover, there isn't any reason sub a ship could even be built.

As to fanwanking, remember that everyone wants to have the at something. For some, bigger ship automatically means better.


If the 14 kilometer vessel was the largest then I agree with you however the ship is considered small in comparison. So the transport probably would be as proportionally as hard to destroy as would any other transport perhaps maybe slightly harder to kill due to sheer size.
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Re: Fanwanking

Postby Deepcrush » Thu May 03, 2012 6:24 pm

McAvoy wrote:Magic. Along with mana draining technology.


Yeah, this isn't Warhammer so there's no reason for magic powered ships.

McAvoy wrote:If the 14 kilometer vessel was the largest then I agree with you however the ship is considered small in comparison. So the transport probably would be as proportionally as hard to destroy as would any other transport perhaps maybe slightly harder to kill due to sheer size.


Then the problem isn't that there is a ship that is 14km long. The problem is there is a 14km ship in SG. Though do remember that in ST, things of that size have been built.
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